One way of thinking has to do with the refining of questions over time as
opposed to the distillation of answers.


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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dave uses Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT


> John wrote:
> > Have you ever changed your mind in regards to the
> > meaning of a particular passage?   Of course you have.
> > How do you know, then, that what you now accept
> > is not due for change sometime in the future?
> > Answer: you don't.  This is exactly why Paul
> > wrote I Cor 8:1-3.
>
> This is an excellent passage in regards to the subject you are addressing,
> but I hope you do not interpret this passage to be saying that we cannot
be
> certain about the truthfulness of any knowledge that we now have.  Faith
is
> being certain about some knowledge for which we have no empirical proof
> (Heb. 11:1), so to surmise that all knowledge we have is subject to being
> discarded is to make the virtue of faith something that is unobtainable.
> Let's look at the passage you reference.
>
> 1 Corinthians 8:1-3
> (1) Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have
> knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
> (2) And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet
> as he ought to know.
> (3) But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
>
> This passage tempers us in regards to being puffed up with knowledge, and
I
> think this is your primary point (which is a very good and important
> point!).  It explicitly states that if any man thinks he knows something,
he
> knows nothing yet as he ought to know.  It then expresses greater
importance
> on being known of God, which happens if we love God.
>
> I do not see "changing our mind about the meaning of a passage" as being
> EXACTLY why Paul wrote this.  Rather, he is showing how our knowledge is
> continually growing.  For example, I believe Jesus is the Christ.  Will I
> ever find that I need to change my mind about this?  No.  But... my
> knowledge of Christ will increase and my understanding of what it means to
> believe upon Christ will increase.
>
> The thrust of what Paul is saying here is that we ought not be puffed up
> about what knowledge we have, because, as all older men and women have
> experienced, our comprehension of what we think we know will grow.  He is
> working from that Platonic concept of absolutes versus the Aristolean
> concept of change, and pointing to being known of God as the absolute
aspect
> which does not change.  Therefore, the implication to his Greek audience
> appreciative of the Platonic philosophy is that loving God and being known
> of God is greater than anything we think we know.
>
> I hope you don't take my comments as refuting what you have said.  I am
> simply trying to refine how you have articulated it.  The focus should be
on
> growth in knowledge not on the idea that everyone will someday discard the
> knowledge he now has as erroneous.
>
> Peace be with you.
> David Miller.
>
>
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