On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:54:52 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt says BSF 'speaks of it' (the incarnation) without 'doctrinizing' (my word) it. Does BSF speak of the Trinitarian nature of God (one being three persons) in just the same fashion?
 
jt: When I wrote this Lance I was saying that they spoke of the incident from the gospel of Luke this year. The word incarnation is not scriptural and neither are the words Trinity and Trinitarian, or theological and/or eschatological .. so much that you hold sacred is man made.
BSF folk speak of these concepts using these very words, incarnation, trinity and trinitarian.   The words DESCRIBE concepts that exclusively biblical.  You would judge all of BSF in this, not to mention Baptists, Methodists, and the like.  Now, because they use the word(s) does not make it "right."  I admitt to this.   But when a word describes that which is biblical , how can it be wrong.   You have used such words in the past -- words not found in the bible  --  to convey a point. 
 
IMO you, Judy, are illustrative of my point to CPL. You teach/preach a different Jesus than the bishop. Without doubt, Judy, you do. Some parts of your teaching 'probably' border on being heretical. Even if this is so, yet do I believe God's Grace includes you.(Don't get sidetracked identifying my 'presumptuousness' in so speaking)  
 
jt: Well then the $50 million question then would have to be - who has the genuine and who has the counterfeit. You don't need to apologize Lance, I'm not under any allusion that you are the one who has been appointed judge over such matters.   jt
 
And here is another difficult position.   You and DM and many others, make your efforts -- especially what you think  -  more important than the grace of God.   You imply in this very paragraph that one must "think" right or the object of the thought is non-existent.   "Huh ??"  you say.    Let me splain  --  God 's character and comittments must be correctly understood or you have the "wrong" God  --  that seems to the crux of your message, here.    My children have misunderstood me in the function of "father."  They know better now, (the youngest is 21) but there have been times when they were at the end of the road and in a failed effort and feared coming to me for help because of a wrong conception of how I might react.  "Man Dad, I thought you would go through the roof on this" was the associated comment.  Did I cease to exists because THEIR concept of me was totally mistaken?& nbsp;  Not on your life.   IF GOD IS REAL, HE EXISTS FAR ABOVE OUR WORTHLESS SURMISSINGS ABOUT HIS EXISTENCE. 
 

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