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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:22:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] ** Moderator commant **
John wrote: > I see you no differently than I see other > sinners, Judy. Say what? Surely you are being sarcastic or facetious or something... saying the opposite of what you really mean? Judy is completely different from all the sinners I encounter.
I'm sorry -- I was speaking from my experience with judy and not from your perspective.
John wrote: > When you say that grace is God's power > to sinlessness -- what scripture did you > have in mind?
I believe that grace is that Divine Quality that provide us with numerous blessings and spiritual provisions. There was a context to my question above, a question that
I asked of Judy Taylor. We are "sinless" in God's sight because of the consideration that flows from the grace or the unmerited favor of God. Such is base upon how God views us in Christ and not because of our own efforts. Blessed is the man to whom God does not imput sin !! Isa 64:6 tells us that our righteousness is as that of filthy rags. The solution (in this context---- Isa 64
) is the work of the potter as He continues to shape and mold AND a decision to view no more the sins of His people.
I will approach any OT statement of declared "perfection" or "righteousness" with this in mind -- that none of us are "perfect" apart from the consideration of God -- apart from His decision
to NOT account our sins to us. You do not share this foundational point of doctrine. We will not see
things differently because of this difference. I do not see anyone as sinless based upon
personal effort an that is based upon a careful study (on my part ) of scripture. Our paradigms are very different.
How about: Genesis 6:8-9 Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. ... Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Luke 2:40 (40) And the child [Jesus] grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the GRACE of God was upon him. John 1:14 (14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of GRACE and truth. Romans 1:3-6 (3) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; (4) And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: (5) By whom WE HAVE RECEIVED GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE to the faith among all nations, for his name: (6) Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: Romans 5:21 (21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might GRACE REIGN THROUGH RIGHTEOUSNESS unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:14 (14) For SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU; FOR YE ARE ... UNDER GRACE. 1 Timothy 1:14 (14) And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and LOVE which is in Christ Jesus. Titus 2:11-12 (11) For the GRACE OF GOD that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, (12) Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Peace be with you. David Miller. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
