Re: [TruthTalk] Apologetic for the eternal sonship of Christ

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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 11:53:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Judy, don't you see that your use of the word "symphony " is a perfectly acceptable thing to do.  

I recently invited you to the Great Dance that this Symphony causes us to perform.  

 

jt: Right! The great "perichoresis" that I have such a problem with - Can you find scriptural grounds for this? I mean in the New Testament. Paul never spoke about any dance - neither

did any other writer of an epistle that I know of and the faith had already been once delivered

to the saints.

 

You believe in a symphony without a dance  --  I don't. 

 

 

Now, in the following, you express regret for the use of "symphony."  It is not that things are "getting .... complicated."  Rather,  it is because your use of of an "unbiblical word" makes criticism of others for that very reason, untenable.  ............  and you know this.  

 

jt: No, it's because so many "so-called" theologians have done so much damage to the faith "once delivered to the saints" that I don't want to be part of anything like that. Neither do I

choose to entertain any of those old rc religious spirits.

 

You don't want to "be a part of anything like that"  meaning your use of "symphony?"  That is the subject of my post.   I am assuming that you have not changed subjects (again.)

 

What you do not seem to allow is that words like "Godhead" are no more of God (nor less, I might add) than your use of "being Berean" or "symphony" or "triune" or whatever.  Understanding the limitations of words -- describing "color" when the picture is in "techno-color,"    God actually teaches us through EVEN our translations of the sacred text  --  i.e. the Greek text, in this case.  

 

jt: I don't have near the problem with words that some of you seem to have; in fact the ones in my old trusty KJV make all the sense in the world to me. Imagine that and I don't even know the Greek.

 

Imagine that!!  

 

Your move away form the use of "symphony" is a tactical move  --  and will not be forgotten.  You have fired the volley and it cannot be returned for reasons of tactical maneuverings.  JD

 

jt: Hey JD, you and Bill are all into this tactical stuff.  I don't even think like that.  Looks like Bill is ready to take his ball and go home again -  What a shame we can't discuss issues like civilized ppl.  jt

 

"Tactics" is a very much a part of your presentation.   Over the year or so I have been on TT youhave moved on from dozens of questions and challenges when the time was right in your estimation.   Most recently, your failure to deal with an OT defense of the eternal Fatherhood of God. 

 

 

JD

Symphony: from Greek sumphni, from sumphnos, harmonious: sun-, syn- + phn, sound. 

Harmony: Simultaneous combination of notes in a chord; a combination of sounds considered pleasing to the ear.

Harmonious: Exhibiting accord in feeling or action; having component elements pleasingly or appropriately combined: a harmonious blend of architectural styles. Characterized by harmony of sound; melodious; exhibiting equivalence or correspondence among constituents of an entity or between different entities;  symmetrical; existing together in harmony; "harmonious family relationships."

 

jt: Bill please forget the symphony - I regret having said anything, it is getting way to complicated.

 

You continue to uphold your "symphony" description, but you criticize my use of perichoresis to speak of the same inner relations (which by my view is an actual indwelling). This is a double standard, Judy. IF you refuse to see it, then so be it.