EVERY MAN, DAVID, IS IMPERFECT EVEN AFTER REDEMPTION ONLY THE REDEEMER IS PERFECT, DAVID. We participate in that which He, the second Adam lived out from conception to ascension on our behalf. Our 'imperfections' are visible to ourselves and to those about us, though redeemed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: July 05, 2005 14:24 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus of the Bible > DAVEH: It seems to me that your below non-religious examples are > illogical, DavidM. Let me give you an example. If I were to ask you, > "Are you perfect before God?", you might answer from your perspective, > "Yes." > > If on the other hand, I were to ask God, "Is DavidM is perfect?", he > might view it differently. > > Do you see what I am getting at? If you ask the guy who had the car > painted if it is perfect, while he may say "yes", the guy painting the > car may have another contrasting perspective. > > God is not asking us if we are perfect, he is commanding us to be > such. The question becomes what does perfection mean. Fortunately, he > qualifies it so that we don't have to worry about what or how man has > defined perfection. As stated in Matthew, whatever perfection there is > in God, that is how he commanded us to become. > > David Miller wrote: > > > Christianity has been enamored by Calvin's teachings > >and influence to portray every man as imperfect even after redemption. > > > >Look at the word "perfect" in non-religious contexts. Someone eats a really > >good hamburger. They exclaim, "That burger was perfect! It could not have > >been made any better." Someone pays someone to paint their car a certain > >color and has very exact requirements. He picks the car up and the painter > >asks, "so, how do you like it?" The reply, "it is perfect!" > > > >On and on, we can come up with examples like this where we use the word > >perfect to mean that something is precisely according to our hopes and > >expectations, but when it comes to our morality and our walk with God, > >somehow the word "perfect" suddenly becomes taboo. Why, nobody can claim > >that they truly walk without sinning against their neighbor! This has more > >to do with our culture walking in apostasy toward God and our desire to > >excuse that apostasy than any change in the language of Scripture. It has > >more to do with our departure from what the Word of God teaches us about our > >completeness and perfection in Christ than with any change in the meaning of > >the word "perfect." > > > >Peace be with you. > >David Miller. > > > >---------- > >"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > > >If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > > > > > > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Dave Hansen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.langlitz.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > If you wish to receive > things I find interesting, > I maintain six email lists... > JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
