I just got back from the archives......back to 2002.   You were having the very same battles way back ten  ....................  almost to the word.   "David - you can't have it both ways  ....."  That sort of thing.    
 
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:51:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sinless Perfection.htm

John wrote:
> 1.  You have, in past times, made it clear that such
> things as "selfishness" or "pride" form the foundation
> or source for "sin" or "sinning."   Such has been
> considered by you as "temptation," not sin.  I will
> not "speak of the Lord only" on this forum, David.
> Here is a perfect illustration of your double speak
> ... Pride is sin, John.  Please stop bearing false witness
> about me.  I recognize that the temptation to be proudful
> of oneself resides in my flesh and could be a source of
> temptation in the future.  I do not allow for pride to be
> a continuing circumstance in my life or the life of a believer.

I see no double speak in this paragraph. What's the problem?
Is it sin or temptation, David?  I do not allow for pride to continue  --  it resides in my flesh.
Need I say more --  need I quote more???   

John wrote:
> 2. As regards paragraph two (your comments below)  --  is
> there a sense in which David Miller is a sinner at any time and,
> therefore, one who has sinned but continues to fall short of the
> glory of God?   You have denied this, in the past.

John, I have never put forward my perfection or sinlessness ever, so I don't 
know why you are trying to make this all about me.  God is the sole judge of 
my walk, not me, not you, not anybody but Jesus Christ.
I am talking about doctrine  -  biblical teaching tells me DM is a sinner right this very minute !!!!

John wrote:
> What is your position today?  Let's not forget that
> "pride" something that we all possess to one degree
> or another.  You now argue that thiis IS sin  (pride),
> making you a "sinner" on  any occasion that I care to
> post to you.

I have maintained many times that the testimony of my wife and those who 
love me and know me is that I am a very humble man.  My wife actually says 
that I am the wisest and smartest man she has ever met in addition to being 
humble.  That is a very difficult combination, I know, so I assume she is 
mistaken, but presumably she is mistaken about my intelligence rather than 
humility.  :-)
You're better than a can of Vicodin, man!!   You quote a women who is hot for you and that is to mean
something to me?  LOL big Dave.

How about asking Christine about my humility.  Would not she be a better 
evaluator?

John wrote:
> 3.  (see para # DAvid's comments below).   It is almost comical
> to me, the extent to which most on the "right" dislike being pinned
> down.

I enjoy being pinned down.  It makes me think.  I do not enjoy being 
misrepresented, mischaracterized, lied about, and maligned.
You are resisting being pinned down here and now  --  and how did I "hurt your daughter?"  Mayber 
its in one of the unopened posts.   

David Miller wrote:
>> I agree, and when one begins with John Smithson's
>> commentary on David Miller, the Biblical message
>> becomes confused.

John wrote:
> Did you mean to say this?!!   LOL my friend.

Yes I did, John.  What's the problem now?
Your equating DM commentary with the bibilical message.   

David Miller wrote:
>> Please, John, don't talk about me on this list.
>> Represent your views or represent the Lord.
>> The choice is yours.  Just do not represent David 
>> Miller.  Please.  Is this too much to ask?

John wrote:
> Yes, on a discussion forum, it really is.

This discussion forum is to talk about Truth, not to talk about list 
members. Do you think this is a gossip forum?  MODERATOR?  A little help 
here please.
Gossip, David?? You said "gossip."   I am talking about representing your teachings here on TT.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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