Mr. Moderator: God alone knows who those are who participate in Christ actively and consciously (those who are 'born from above). IMO all such express their understanding of the One who made this possible (The One and only Lord, Jesus, God with us) along with their experience of Him) partially and inadequately (He and our experience of Him transcend human vocabulary).
Jesus spoke out against the religious leaders he encountered vociferously. There was no moderator to say "Hold on just a minute, Jesus! You may attack what they said but, you must not attack them. This 'whited sepulchre' business is a bit strong, isn't it?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: July 10, 2005 10:14 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sinless Perfection.htm > > >From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >My point: YOU CAN'T NOT GET PERSONAL. ONE OUGHT NOT SEPARATE THE TRUTH > >SPOKEN > >FROM THE TRUTH SPEAKER....OUGHT ONE? > > > > > > Lance, I do not agree with you. > > There are really two levels of ad hominem that occur on TT. One with the > intent to sway an argument, the other being to disparage another in the > absence of an argument. Discussions can easily move from the former to the > latter. > > The former is a a fallacy used in a debtate, rooted in the desiree to win > an argument that may have reached an impasse, or may have come from weak > position. The latter is plain cruelty, intended to hurt another. > > It is entirely possible to argue a point strictly from the Bible, and > even from other external sources, without referring to anyone on a personal > level. It takes discipline and training in debate to NOT bring in ad hominem > arguments (especially when we see the argumentum ad hominem demonstrated > frequently during ANY political race. As a side note). > > The bottom line is that I don't think anyone on TT has demonstrated that > they are a trained debater, although some are very good debaters. > Furthermore, we all can become emotional about our positions and often > cannot avoid emotional outbursts in the form of attacks at those that hurt > us, or malign us, especially when we feel that "the other person started > it". > > Perry the Moderator > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
