Judy wrote:
> How terribly sad  - did somebody counsel and pray
> with this man who was obviously under conviction
> of the Spirit? ...
> A born again person who is right with God knows
> they are born again and right with God.  If they don't
> know this it is a huge red flag - and this man was crying
> out for help.....

For what it's worth, I had kind of the same reaction to reading this.  I 
hear of long term Christian men growing up in the church but never having 
had experienced being born again.  I read a pastor's testimony once who had 
pastored a very large traditional church.  He suddenly experienced the new 
birth, and did not know what to do.  He told his congregation from the 
pulpit that he had been a Christian all his life, earned a doctorate in 
theology, pastored for many years, but he had never been born again.  He 
gave his testimony.  It completely split the church.  Many could not fathom 
how such a scholar of the Bible, such a good man, could not have been born 
again.  Many actually believed that he had lost his mind and gone insane. 
About half the church stayed with him, but the other half just could not 
understand.

I don't know this man that Bill mentioned.  Bill did.  That means Bill has a 
better foundation from which to speak on this issue, but it does seem to me 
that the Lord was dealing with him.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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