Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14

[Judith H Taylor]

Judyt: Much as I hate to disagree with you and Terry I've got to on this one because it promotes the "incarnational" thing. Colossians 1:22 is the reality of the "risen Christ" John.  It is not how he walked amongst Israel and reading scripture in balance and context would demonstrate this.  Why would the "fullness of the Godhead bodily" say "My Father is greater than I?"  Also IMO you carry this "representative" thing too far on the other end.  We had no choice but to be born into the first Adam.  We do have a choice as to whether or not we embrace the second and if we do not receive the Word of God embrace reality by agreeing with His assessment and obey Him - we will continue on in our wretchedness and His Kingdom will be alien to and unavailable to us because God's wrath continues to abide on us (John 3:36)  We don't talk about what we have been saved from.  Why not?   On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:27:39 -0500 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my posted comment below, I say "God and man."    He is the Son of God and, thus, God Himself  (John 5:18).  He is the Son of Man, thus, man(kind) himself.   As Son of God,  He is the fullness of the very nature of God,  the visible presentation of the invisible God.   As Son of Man, He is the prefect(ed) representative of man !!   As a result,   in Him,  mankind, full of faith, escapes judgment  (John 5:24 and Col 1:22, where the word translated "blameless" means "unaccused" or he who "cannot be called into account"  -  Thayer).  PTL !!   JD      =============================================================== You have said well. Terry