"Yes John, it is ...." means that I am right in my stated view above.
"But ... " means that you are about to counter your own admission oerhaps.
"....she is trying to help .... and ....... correct his misbehaviour." means that, in fact, you did counter yourself.
Not much I can say to someone who uses this method of "reasoning." My comments stand as written and will be understood by all who are not into "rebuking ministries.
Thnaks for you comments, anyway.
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:03:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
JD wrote:
> Judy writes this YOU ARE ONE WITH THE ACCUSER
> That sort of tripe is ad hom at its core.
Yes, John, it is, but you seem to overlook that she was responding to a personal insult. If a man slugs another man, and the man he slugs then slugs back, is it really fair to focus all our criticism on the man who slugged back in response to the first? I'm not trying to justify her, but help you see that others are provoking her and it would be best if we got to the root of the problem. Ideally, it would be best if we all turned the other cheek, but if that does not happen, we try and stop the root of the problem and then the rest is taken care of as a result.
Furthermore, there is actually a big difference in what Judy is saying and that of the initial accuser. It seems to me that Judy is hoping to help the one who is doing the initial accusing to see that he is cooperating with spiritual forces that perhaps he does not mean to be. In other words, she is trying to help him see why he has become an accuser himself and hoping that realization will cause him to correct his misbehavior.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
David Miller.

