One additional comment. Your post below justifies Judy's very bad behavior, ignoring the possibility that Gary was hoping that Judy (and then Linda) would see their actions as, in reality, an attempt to manipulate God. "If I do this and that, then I can expect God to do that and this." Such can be considered manipulation -- especially when such thinking is not founded in scripture (i.e.works salvation) Now, whether Gary's theological opinion is correct, and I think it is, his willingness to be honest in his appraisal without accusing either Judy or Linda of being disciples of Satan can be seen as a very commendable action.
Smithson, JD
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:03:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
JD wrote:
> Judy writes this YOU ARE ONE WITH THE ACCUSER
> That sort of tripe is ad hom at its core.
Yes, John, it is, but you seem to overlook that she was responding to a personal insult. If a man slugs another man, and the man he slugs then slugs back, is it really fair to focus all our criticism on the man who slugged back in response to the first? I'm not trying to justify her, but help you see that others are provoking her and it would be best if we got to the root of the problem. Ideally, it would be best if we all turned the other cheek, but if that does not happen, we try and stop the root of the problem and then the rest is taken care of as a result.
Furthermore, there is actually a big difference in what Judy is saying and that of the initial accuser. It seems to me that Judy is hoping to help the one who is doing the initial accusing to see that he is cooperating with spiritual forces that perhaps he does not mean to be. In other words, she is trying to help him see why he has become an accuser himself and hoping that realization will cause him to correct his misbehavior.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
David Miller.
