JD David is right, I have been trying to get you to see
what you are doing and it is for your/Gary's sake as much
as ours because not only does continual accusation
wear us out - You/Gary will never reap blessing so long as
you are allowing the adversary to use you this
way.
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:54:46 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One additional comment. Your post below justifies Judy's very bad behavior, ignoring the possibility
that
Gary was hoping that Judy (and then Linda) would see their actions as, in
reality, an attempt to manipulate God.
jt: We are not entirely stupid JD; why would you think
we are trying to manipulate God?
"If I do this and that, then I can expect God to do that and
this." Such can be considered manipulation --
jt: Not when one has learned to know His ways and walk
in them JD. This is where the blessings of obedience
happen. God always longed for Israel to want to
know His ways but they preferred His acts - only Moses knew
them and had the ppl wearing him out night and day
wanting him to make spiritual judgments between them.
especially when such thinking is not founded in scripture (i.e.works
salvation) Now, whether Gary's theological
opinion is correct, and I think it is, his willingness to be honest
in his appraisal without accusing either
Judy or
Linda of being disciples of Satan can
be seen as a very commendable action.
jt: Honest? Most of the time noone knows what he
is saying but lately he has been openly accusing so I don't
know how you would reach such a consensus
JD. Once more - obedience is not works it is normal
christian
living. judyt
-----Original Message-----
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:03:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
JD wrote:> Judy writes this YOU ARE ONE WITH THE ACCUSER> That sort of tripe is ad hom at its core.Yes, John, it is, but you seem to overlook that she was responding to a personal insult. If a man slugs another man, and the man he slugs then slugs back, is it really fair to focus all our criticism on the man who slugged back in response to the first? I'm not trying to justify her, but help you see that others are provoking her and it would be best if we got to the root of the problem. Ideally, it would be best if we all turned the other cheek, but if that does not happen, we try and stop the root of the problem and then the rest is taken care of as a result.Furthermore, there is actually a big difference in what Judy is saying and that of the initial accuser. It seems to me that Judy is hoping to help the one who is doing the initial accusing to see that he is cooperating with spiritual forces that perhaps he does not mean to be. In other words, she is trying to help him see why he has become an accuser himself and hoping that realization will cause him to correct his misbehavior.Peace be with you.
David Miller.
