An excellent point G.   But so is your comment equating obedience to training.  In a time when it is admitted that righteousness does not come by the Law,  the place of obedience is, perhaps, better understood as a "fitting" or a "training.   Thanks.   You got the juices flowing once again.   
 
Et al:    a few comments from Bonhoeffer:
 
He does not have the power of being for me; He is the power
 
Christ stands for His new humanity before God.  But if tht is so, He is the new humanity.......therefore in Him, mankind is crucified, dead and judged."     Bonhoeffer, Christ The Center, p 48.   Bonhoeffer was murdered in 1945.   I believe this was written in 1906.   Anyone with a better guess? 
 
 
JD
 
 
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(a command which is impossible to obey)
 
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heal!
 
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:08:10 -0400 Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com> writes:
jd: WORKS SALVATION IS NOT THE GOSPEL  JD
 
jt: You..argue against obedience [training] constantly JD .. renamed it "works salvation"  
 

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