Since I've been accused of being one of the God manipulators - might I put my 2 cents in here please.
Let me say that I am not requiring anything of anyone. So far as I'm concerned you Gary and everyone else
can do whatever they want - but your blood will not be on my hands, nor on that of anyone else who has
tried to speak truth to you.  Those who reject truth judge themselves as unworthy and eventually God Himself
gives them over to strong delusion so that they might believe the lie.     jt
 
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:41:15 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
for humans biblical salvation is purely voluntary, like the Alamo--you wanna defend the KoG in history with JC, cross his line in the sand
 
this is obedience to him--salvation (via 'a crucifixion') you volunteer for is just that, voluntary
 
who, then, as a volunteer, has any right to compel the involuntary religious obedience of another?
 
while the G-m's (God-manipulators) among us do exactly that requiring y/our compliance by a certain force, ask 'compliance? to whom?'
 
i'd say these G-m types never volunteered for nothin' worth volunteerin' for and that's their real problem; FTR, neither God's nor mine
 
 
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:32:32 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
To argue that salvation is free but after the initial event, we must obey to maintain this salvation is wrong on several levels:
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6.    [re: pronouncing] 'that what God could not do for man, man must do for himself !!'
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