Are you, David, one of that 'many' who call 'it' the conscience? Are you
also of the mind that a 'spark of the divine' resides within every woman?
Someone I know calls the 'tripate' understanding (spirit, soul, body) the
triple decker cone understanding (separate 'entities'). Do you so view all
of humankind?
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: August 18, 2005 16:28
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adam - sin - and the rest of us
Debbie wrote:
Do you believe then that a sort of spiritual
neutrality is possible?
No. A spirit without illumination from God is a negative.
Debbie wrote:
You also agree with me that it is our capacity
to recognize God and perceive the truth about
him and our relation to him that is most impaired.
But I am thinking that you believe this impairment
(if it is the same thing you are calling defilement) is
an after-effect of the act of sinning, and that sin, in
the beginning at least, attacks our spirit from without,
via the body.
No, the impairment exists before sinning, but defilement makes it worse.
The spirit and body are intertwined and connected, so I do not think it
would be proper to speak about an attack on our spirit from without via
the
body. The carnal person has almost no distinction between spirit and
flesh.
Nevertheless, this perspective would take on more merit in a spiritual
person who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
Debbie wrote:
"Not completely dark" is quite different from either
"most impaired" or "spiritually neutral": it's better than
the one and worse than the other. So I'm not sure what
you mean by it.
I just mean that no matter how dark it is, there will be at some point the
light of God made manifest to it. The spirit of man is the candle of the
Lord.
Debbie wrote:
But I think the verse from John tells me that any light
we have is from outside ourselves, from the true Light.
John 1:9
(9) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the
world.
This passage does not say anything about whether the light is from outside
ourselves or inside ourselves. What it does tell us is that He is the
light
that lighteth EVERY MAN that cometh into the world. When you experienced
this light, was it from outside yourself or was it shining deep within
yourself, in your heart and spirit?
Debbie wrote:
(And I don't think the Proverbs verse is
about any of this at all.)
Prov. 20:27, "The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord."
You need to try to consider this passage a little more thoroughly. This
passage shows a direct connection between the spirit of man and the Lord.
The light given here is a candle, which is a diminished light. It is not
bright like the sun, nor even like the moon, but like a candle.
Nevertheless, it is a light. Where is this light of God? Within man.
His
spirit. Many call it the conscience.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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