Debbie wrote:
> It is the Holy Spirit who reveals our
> condition to us, who convicts of sin.

I don't know if you have ever made this distinction, but I do not believe 
that the Holy Spirit ever convicts believers of sin.  The Holy Spirit's job 
in the life of the believer is to reveal Christ to us.  In other words, he 
reveals righteousness to us, just the opposite of sin.

Debbie wrote:
> I do not mean pointing out individual transgressions
> to us (which acts are right and which are wrong).
> I mean giving our darkened minds an understanding
> that our humanity as it is is pervasively bent--that we
> are not in the proper relation to God and are in need
> of redemption. We can't know that without knowing
> who God is and who we are meant to be in relation
> to him. This is by the Holy Spirit.

Yes, I acknowledge this work of the Holy Spirit, but this does not deny the 
existence of the conscience.  It is actually the conscience which gives the 
Holy Spirit entrance and a way to work in our lives.

The thing about the conscience is that it speaks even to those who have not 
experienced this work of the Holy Spirit you have just described.  It speaks 
even to those who do not believe.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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