From: "Lance Muir" <
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David:
You speak of 'MY BIBLE' meaning yours, of course.
Of course he does - would you expect him to be
reading from YOUR BIBLE Lance?
Which is what? The dead sea scrolls?
Glad to see you writing again DavidM
You wield your sword competently, David. As I said elsewhere,
there are those
who hang on YOUR interpretation(s) both on this forum and in your
church.
And who might these be 'O wise one' from the
Northern Regions? I agree with
DavidM most of the time because he sees the same
Word by the same Spirit
I don't hang on ANY man's interpretation.
IMO which doesn't count for much in
your circle - hanging on men's interpretations is
what will cause your demise in
the last day.
Me, I see 'em for what they are; the constructions of a self-taught
man. (good
though they may be on occasion)
Self-taught huh! Stated by one who by his
own testimony is ignorant of and
does not KNOW the Teacher.
Why return simply to confuse some younger believer rather than
permitting
them to be taught by the Word and the Spirit?
Obtuse insight for sure. He is the
listowner - why shouldn't he return? Throwing
more vulnerable believers to the "incarnational"
wolves would not be loving or
caring would it?
At least you did receive a modest 'hand', if not a standing ovation,
from
the 'Iz corner'. That musta made ya feel good?
I'll submit a standing ovation from the judyt
corner and hope it makes DavidM
feel even better - not that he is moved by
feelings because if he were he would
have shut this down long ago since he is more
persecuted and maligned than
any of us. Why do you save your most
vindictive rhetoric for him Lance?? I
wonder about that. At this point I figure
it is because of his education and social
standing. You can put the rest of us in a corner
with the religious zealots, fundies,
women, and ignorant but DM seems to stick in your
craw for some reason.....
> Lance wrote:
>> As 'believers, we 'participate'
(in our relationship with Him
>> and with each other)
inadequately and incompletely EVERY
>> DAY. This is the reality
of the Christian life. Any voice, human
>> or otherwise, who
would suggest that this is not the case speaks
>> against the
truth of the gospel.
>
> Lance, with all due respect, in the
time I have known you through email
> here
> on TruthTalk,
you consistently judge others using yourself as the
>
standard.
> YOU are not the standard by which we are to judge what
is possible or what
> is impossible.
>
> A better yard
stick to use would be the Bible. Yes, I know, everybody
>
disagrees about what the Bible says, but that is simply because most
> people
> do not obey the Bible. Those who obey the Bible
hear what it has to say,
> and
> they do come to
agreement. That does not mean that everyone has identical
>
perspectives. We are not meant to have identical perspectives.
Rather,
> it
> means that we are in complete agreement,
whether it be like Paul and James
> on being justified by faith or
justified by works, or whether it be like
> Izzy and me on the
subject of holiness.
>
> Now my Bible says that those who are
practicing righteousness is righteous
> even as HE (Christ) is
righteous (1 John 3:7). Surely you are not going
> to
>
argue that Jesus Christ himself was inadequate or incomplete, are
you? If
> not, then we have no reason to believe your false
gospel that everybody
> inadequately and incompletely are in
relationship with Christ and each
> other.
>
> 1 John
1:7 says that if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we
>
have
> fellowship one with another. This does not speak about
inadequate or
> incomplete fellowship. This passage speaks
about a reality available to
> all
> those who will believe
the gospel.
>
> Col. 2:10 says that we are complete in
him. Why do you say, "we are not
> complete in him, but we all
inadquately and incompletely, EVERY DAY,
> participate in our
relationship with him"? Please speak for yourself and
> not me
on this issue. You do not represent me or Christ on this issue.
> You
> should say "I" rather than "we," but better yet,
learn the truth of the
> Scriptures and then get your mouth lined up
with God's Word. Confess what
> God's Word says rather than
what your experience tells you about your past
> life. Change
cannot happen if you are always looking back. You must look
>
forward to Christ, and reach for him, and apprehend him, always
reaching
> forward in an adequate and complete manner that
continually gets better
> every day.
>
> Peace be with
you.
> David Miller.
>
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>
know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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