Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:04:01 -0700

I await David's response. 
 
JD 
 
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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

 
 
On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:40:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As Christ is so are we in this world !!   Amen.  
But you ignore a host of scripture that makes it clear that such is the case only
as we exist in (eis) Christ 
 
He's not ignoring anything JD.  The "image" of Christ is what the perseverance of
the saints results in; it is not something Jesus does independent of us and it can
not ever be accomplished aside from our cooperation and obedience to Him.
 
a phrase not to be confused with "...such is the case only as we exist by the 
power of the Spirit to practice the same degree of sinless perfection that defined 
a very important aspect of Christ's incarnation."   Jd 
 
Then quit confusing the issue and entangling everything with your extra biblical
theories.  1 John 4:17 says exactly what it says - No need to rationalize or try
to explain it away.
 

From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John wrote:
> what we are called to do and what we actually
> accomplish are two different things, in this case.
You do not seem to be paying close attention to the following verse:
1 John 4:17
(17) Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Is this passage true or false?  How do you exegete this passage?  Upon what authority do you say that the realization of this passage is impossible or contrary to the will of God for us in this life?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
 
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

what we are called to do and what we actually accomplish are two different things, in this case.
 
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:00:46 -0400
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God is a relational God: Father, Son, Spirit

JD wrote:
> The correct way of saying it is this:
> nobody has the power to walk as Christ walked.

So says John Smithson, but the apostle John says, "as he is, so are we in 
this world" (1 John 4:17) and also, "He that saith he abideth in him ought 
himself also so to walk, even as he walked."  Who should I believe?  I 
choose to believe the apostle John.

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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