Re: [TruthTalk] Re:The HEART of the matter

[Dave Hansen]

DAVEH:   Sorry about that, Lance.  I had hoped you would understand the underlying humor in my answer.      To give you a serious answer, let me offer the example of what I perceive to be true of Mother Theresa.  Neither you or I believe that the RCC folks espouse true theology, yet apparently MT was a true Christian due to her love of those who were disadvantaged.  Is there any truer Christian than one who gives her (or his) life to others?  I don't think so.      There are many Christian folk who believe in doctrines that I think are in error.  From my perspective that does not make them any less Christian than one how professes true doctrine, but yet whose works demonstrate no motivation for being a Christian.  There are a lot of goodly (and Godly) sincere Christians in the world who believe opposing doctrines.  It is not for me to judge them as inadequate in the Lord's eyes.  I'll leave the judging to the Judge, and as for myself.....I'll try to worry more about how to treat others with respect even though I may disagree with their beliefs. Lance Muir wrote: I'm not asking you to speak for God, Dave. I'm asking for you to speak within the context of your own tradition.   You may recall my various attempts to address the question 'Who is Jesus?'. Now, whatever the variance within the Christian tradition(s) (I do not consider Mormonism Christian), there isn't simply a 'variance' between you and I.   FWIW, I DO BELIEVE that such as Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and Christadelphians MAY be born from above even through a maze of heretical beliefs (IMO). DAVEH:   How would I know, Lance???   Perhaps Brother Dean can answer that question from his personal experience!      :-D Lance Muir wrote: Is it possible for one to have a true heart connection (be born from above) with God through Christ by the Spirit while espousing beliefs via one's dogma that are intrinsically unreal (false)? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.