> [Original Message]
> From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 11/11/2005 1:43:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intent of the Law
>
> makes sense to me Pete. Well stated.
> Terry
>
> Peter Krostag wrote:
>
> >cd: While I am hoping that I am not one of those people afraid to think
> >outside the box. How can one be spiritual while breaking the law sent to
> >help us be spiritual.
> >
> >Pete responds: It says the Law is Spiritual, not that following the Law
> >makes one Spiritual. No man is justified by the Law.
cd:I agree that upon belief in Christ and confession to repentance
makes one just-but that does not give us the right to break even one of the
commandments (ie the Law). We are established upon Christs righteousness
and then justified by our deeds or as the Bible says "every man will be
judged by their works".
> >
> >cd: How about righteousness-if breaking the law
> >(ie.Commandments) has no effect on the spiritual. How can the
unrighteous be
> >spiritual?
> >
> >Pete responds: No one is righteous. Our faith has made us righteous.
Just
> >as Abraham was declared righteous BEFORE the Law came.
cd: Are you saying that one cannot then become unrighteous? Does faith
alone keep us?
> >
> >cd: Which box are we speaking of here? Thinking outside the bible
perhaps?
> >
> >Pete: Absolutely not. Let me ask you a question. Do you still make
> >sacrifices according to the Law? If not, why not? Do you keep all 612
> >laws? If not, why not? Didn't Jesus say that you fulfill the law when
you
> >love your God will all your heart, mind and soul and love your neighbor
as
> >yourself. You won't break the Law if you fulfill the two main laws
mentioned
> >above. Loving God means you accept Jesus and becoming righteous by
> >believing in Him. This fulfills the sacrificial part of the law. The
> >atonement is through Him. You won't break the civil laws if you love
your
> >neighbor as yourself. As to what is referred to some as the "dietary
laws,"
> >Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that
> >which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
cd: Aren't the 11 commandments tied to love of God and love of neighbor? No
where are we told to keep 612 commandments but we are told to keep the
moral law.1 Jn 2:4 The one who says, " I have come to know Him," and does
not keep the commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. If I
have faith in Christ then I will accept his words and seek to live by those
words.
> >
> >Thinking outside the box in the context I was referring to means you
> >consider ideas you have not thought of before.
cd: Thats what we are here for brother.
> >
> >
> >
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