God hates sin, Dave, more than I hate liver. I will never eat liver, no
matter how many onions you use to cover it, no matter how many times I
am given that option. God will give you the option, but it is not His
desire. I think that must be one of the toughest parts of being God,
wanting what is best for His people, yet allowing them to make choices
that bring pain and death.
Look around you. Child molesters, burglars, robbers, selfishness,
starvation, disease.Do you think that maybe He wanted Adam and Eve to
ruin it for everyone?
Dave Hansen wrote:
DAVEH: One more fact from your perspective, Terry.........I assume
you believe that God did not want A&E to sin though, even though he
knew they would. Is that correct?
Terry Clifton wrote:
Just the facts, Dave. Fact one: Adam and Eve did sin.
Fact two: God hates sin.
Fact three: Getting people to sin is the top priority of Satan.
It's over. We know who to blame. Nothing to discuss.
Dave Hansen wrote:
No. Actually, I have never heard this question discussed
DAVEH: That rather surprises me. I remember asking Perry a
similar question sometime ago, and he blew me off. That rather
surprised me at the time, but I did not pursue it.
As I understand, most Christians (including Protestants, RCC and
independents) believe that God wanted A&E not to transgress. IFF
that was actually his intention, then it seems an interesting thought
avenue to pursue. Yet, the few who've responded seem to indicate that
they have no interest in pondering what the Lord intended to be. To
me, that seems very strange. Does it strike you as rather curious,
John?
were A & E predestined to sin?
DAVEH: Yes, I did ask that question. I do not know what you folks
believe about predestination and foreordination. Since you apparently
do not believe we existed in a pre-mortal state, it would seem to me
that you would not believe in either. But....I don't want to assume
such without at least asking you first.
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No. Actually, I have never heard this question
discussed.
You asked me to comment on a question -- perhaps a week ago, now.
Aaaahhhhhh, was it "were A & E predestined to sin?
jd
DAVEH:
May I suggest another topic of interest to me? I am curious as to if
any of you folks ever consider what would have happened IF Adam and Eve
had not transgressed. Does that discussion ever come up with you folks?
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Look -- what are we going to discuss here on TT?
We have pretty much said all that can be said about any number of
subjects.
jd
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