As I said to Iz, the cross is deeply embedded in the Christian psyche.  It is in mine as well. But since you guys have made an issue of the stars thing, it has occurred to me that stars are better than crosses, and I advocate changing crosses on all Christian churches to stars--whether 5 or 6 pointed, is not an issue with me.   The Jewish star of David, by the way, is probably a symbol of their expected Messiah--I'd have to check that out.  Maybe they had it right in the beginning. 
 
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:36:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
check out these crosses:

http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/crosses/index.html


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>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
>Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:39:55 EST
>
>
>Blainerb:  There are quite a few "cross"  songs in the LDS hymnbook.  It is
>not a bad word, it is just the context in  which it is used.  We believe in
>"taking up our cross,"  so to speak,  which means we give up the pleasures
>of the
>world, and are even willing to  suffer if necessary to live more
>righteously.
>  But we still think the cross  as a visible symbol of Jesus falls short of
>what He stands for--the most  important of which is resurrection to life in
>the
>Kingdom of God--God's  life.  We do not think that is adequately
>represented
>by a  cross.  Now stars, whether pentagrams or whatever, obviously fill the
>bill, since that's where we hope to be--in heaven, where the stars are at. 
>  :>)
>  Stars make for an excellent symbol of Jesus Christ, whereas a cross  is
>dubious at best.
>
>
>In a message dated 12/13/2005 5:56:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>Why did  the LDS "CHOIR" sing songs about the Cross you dispise at general
>Conference  last October?
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>In a message dated 12/12/2005 7:42:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>One of the best  songs I ever heard was titled, “He Loved Me with a
>Crossâ€
>.   iz
>
>
>One of the weirdest songs I ever heard was The Old Rugged  Cross.  It
>seemed
>to glorify the cross in a negative  way.  I doubt the Lord even to this day
>is overly fond of that old  rugged cross. :>)
>Blainerb
>
>
>
 

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