Blaine,
Try reading through the NT and replace every occurrence of the word
"cross" with "star". The text becomes meaningless. The cross is a MAJOR part
of the Chrsitian landscape, directly from scripture. It has meaning and
value beyond merely an instrument of death, and is the VERY symbol of our
freedom in Christ. The star does not.
The atonement did not happen in Gethsemane, it did not happen at the
resurrection. It happened on the cross. Our Lord cried out "it is finished"
at the moment the debt we can never pay was paid by Him. To deny or to try
to change that is to deny scripture.
Perry
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:24:13 EST
As I said to Iz, the cross is deeply embedded in the Christian psyche. It
is in mine as well. But since you guys have made an issue of the stars
thing,
it has occurred to me that stars are better than crosses, and I advocate
changing crosses on all Christian churches to stars--whether 5 or 6
pointed, is
not an issue with me. The Jewish star of David, by the way, is probably
a
symbol of their expected Messiah--I'd have to check that out. Maybe they
had
it right in the beginning.
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:36:59 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
check out these crosses:
http://www.seiyaku.com/customs/crosses/index.html
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>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cross
>Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:39:55 EST
>
>
>Blainerb: There are quite a few "cross" songs in the LDS hymnbook. It
is
>not a bad word, it is just the context in which it is used. We believe
in
>"taking up our cross," so to speak, which means we give up the
pleasures
>of the
>world, and are even willing to suffer if necessary to live more
>righteously.
> But we still think the cross as a visible symbol of Jesus falls short
of
>what He stands for--the most important of which is resurrection to life
in
>the
>Kingdom of God--God's life. We do not think that is adequately
>represented
>by a cross. Now stars, whether pentagrams or whatever, obviously fill
the
>bill, since that's where we hope to be--in heaven, where the stars are
at.
> :>)
> Stars make for an excellent symbol of Jesus Christ, whereas a cross
is
>dubious at best.
>
>
>In a message dated 12/13/2005 5:56:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>Why did the LDS "CHOIR" sing songs about the Cross you dispise at
general
>Conference last October?
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>In a message dated 12/12/2005 7:42:12 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>One of the best songs I ever heard was titled, ââ¬ÅHe Loved Me with
a
>Crossââ¬
>Â. iz
>
>
>One of the weirdest songs I ever heard was The Old Rugged Cross. It
>seemed
>to glorify the cross in a negative way. I doubt the Lord even to this
day
>is overly fond of that old rugged cross. :>)
>Blainerb
>
>
>
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