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No JD is not correct on this one
Lance. James and John were not scholars, neither were the
Bereans.
John was arrested along with Peter and brought before
the High Priest (educated) in Jerusalem because
they were acting like Street Preachers .....
and
"Now when they (the educated and learned ones) saw the
boldness of Peter and John, and perceived
that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them,
that they
had been with Jesus" (Acts 4:13)
This should put it to rest for a reasonable person.
You and JD do not understand the ministry of the
Holy Spirit Lance. The Scriptures are spiritually rather than mentally appraised and so
your question
about "infallibility" is irrelevant except for the Vatican and in their economy the Pope is
the only one who
speaks ex-cathedra.
JD is correct on this one, Judy. Do you, Judy,
believe that in HAVING THE MIND OF CHRIST you are thereby INFALLIBLE IN BOTH
YOUR SELECTION, UNDERSTANDING AND INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE. I believe it is
possible for you to answer yes/no on this.
Amen Judy ????? Get a life.
You are one insulting somebody JD.
Judy writes as if she knows the reading habits of the Bereans or the
Apostle John. Since John is so
obviously writing to those who are not of Jewish traditional
thought, I would say his reading of others
is substantial.
Oh? so now the unlearned disciples have all
of a sudden become scholars according to JD. John and
his brother James, sons of Zebedee, fishermen on
the sea of Galilee are now Seminary grads and
know all about cultural distinctions and all
that. I guess Peter had learned all this before giving
his
address on the day of Pentecost also .....
Get a grip JD.
Paul is admittedly well read. What I do know is
this - you and Judy speak of that which you cannot
know.
Why not? We have the mind of Christ don't
we? Or are you, like Lance going to negate every
promise
to us since we do not speak in accord
with your great learning?
You attach your interpretation of [even] historical
conisiderations to your sense of reality and then, insist
it is truth. Ridiculous in many instances.
jd
It may appear ridiculous to you JD but then God
takes pleasure in hiding things from those who think
themselves wise and prudent and He
likes revealing things to babes.
I have yet to hurl an epithet anywhere
Lance. My objection to Calvinism is for some very specific
reasons with or
without "firsthand
knowledge or intricate and specific detail" about Calvin the
man. His teachings are enough. I will
leave the man to
God. I have no desire to be an expert on John Calvin the man or
any other anti-Christ (meaning in
place of) figure
for that matter and this would include
Athanasius, Augustine, Aquinas, et al. along to the present
Papacy both rc and
protestant. I am happy to leave you
to tend to them while I press on to know the Lord and the
power of His resurrection in my daily life.
cd: Amen Judy for their fruits are enough-Studying their
teaching apart from their works is the reason those -who support
Calvin-on this site are confused. We see their work so we have no need
for their teachings. We don't have to study the Satanic Bible to
know our enemy for truth sheds a bright light on him already. The
Bible teaches to look at their fruits and their works is what God
Judges every man by-so we can also use God tool to know
them.
Were I prone to worry Judy, YOU would
not be among those about whom I would. Why? I perceive you to be a
completely and utterly genuine believer, who esteems the Scriptures
highly and who lives what she believes. Now, when it comes to the
hurling of epithets at those servants of God about whom you possess
no firsthand knowledge, I'd put you alongside DaveH and Blainer and
their knowledge of the TRUE GOSPEL. (Believe it or not, this is a
sort of compliment, Judy)
I wonder if the Bereans had done any
reading of primary source material when they examined what Paul
preached.
Also the apostle John, I wonder if he had
read source material when he exhorted 1st Century Christians
not to even
wish a false
teacher "godspeed" for if they did they would be a "partaker of
his evil deeds" If I were prone to worry
you would
worry me Lance. You are more concerned about these men than you
are about Jesus Himself and the
ministry of the Spirit of Christ.
IMO you need to do more primary reading from the source of
all Truth - then you
will more accurately be qualified to
discern between good and evil. Your qualifications are not
those of Christ.
YOU JUDY are not entitled to call
it anything, IMO. You've not done, insofar as I know, any
reading of primary source material (2 vol Institutes,
Commentaries). It's akin to hearing an atheist condemn the
teachings of the Scriptures based upon the same sort of
evidentiary inquiry that you've conducted with John
Calvin.
Would Calvinistic heresay be
acceptable Lance? Where did the doctrine called
Calvinism come from if not from
him? What should we call
doctrine taken from his institutes and taught in our 20th
Century Churches? Can I call
it teachings of Calvin that Lance
calls hearsay?
With apologies (sort of) in
advance to David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you once
again, Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE DISCERNING
THAN JOHN CALVIN? IMO, your regard for Scriptures
appears to be second to nobody on TT. (regard NOT being the
same thing as understanding). However, you do indeed appear
to read/study and live it insofar as you are enabled.
Scripture is a primary source for you. Amen! for that. Now, other than the blessed internet, how much
of John Calvin's own writings, have you actually read.
Do you possess anything whatsoever by him? If all that you
know of him would be classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and
desist from your unfounded allegations
hereafter. Stick to that which you claim to
understand, please?.
Sure they do, they camp around
John Calvin don't they? Why do you think there are
so many
different doctrines all claiming
to be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers
who believe that JC taught that encouraging the
baptism of the HS for the already converted 'sums
up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to seek
the Baptism in the Holy
Spirit... jt
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for reference:
7:12So in everything, do [the
good] to others [t]hat you would have them do
to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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