How are you using 'charismatic'? IFF the Spirit of
God is NOT present in this church Judy, flee immediately! IFF the Spirit of God
IS present in this church Judy, then take care concerning those
accusations lest you falsely accuse one of God's own.
D**n Judy, but you're one c***y lady!!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: December 19, 2005 08:10
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Condition of
heart of "unregenerate" gentiles
No, I figure God is able to keep us and our son is
doing his own homework which is more than many.
The missionary girl (just spent 7yrs in Ukraine) that
just moved into an Apt with our youngest girl was
raised in what they call the Reformed faith and has
never questioned it. Many pew sitters want to be
spoon fed by someone who is charismatic,
entertaining, and has a good personality and if God doesn't
show up - Oh well!! They wouldn't know the
difference.
Are you, Judy, concerned for your son/yourself
in this church, under this pastor?
He does JD and if he left almost the whole church
would go with him. It is definitely "he" who has it
"going on" rather than the Lord.
You would like him. You could laugh at all his jokes appreciate
all
the books he has read and cites in his sermons
and join his pastorly following especially
since you
are pleased to accommodate Calvinism - you'd
probably fit right in.
Your pastors name? Sounds as though he has it going on
!!!!! jd
From:
Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi Dean:
Thanks for your response and please pray for
me. I am in a Reformed Church right now ONLY to
encourage
our son and DIL who want to raise our
grandson in Church but the more I learn about it the worse it
becomes.
Our Pastor is smart, charismatic, and has
been to three different Bible schools and in four different
denoms.
He has a Phd and THIS is what he has
chosen? It boggles the mind. Last week he was teaching
us that the
sin of "unbelief" had been taken care of at
the cross. So I guess that makes the whole of Romans 11 null
and
void and no branches have to be concerned
about being cut off and burned. The elect have it made in
the shade but noone seems to be able to
know for sure who they are. It's confusion at best and an antiChrist spirit at worst. Don't know whether or not I can stay the
course.....
cd: Amen Judy for their fruits are enough-Studying their
teaching apart from their works
is the reason those -who support Calvin-on this site are
confused. We see their work so
we have no need for their teachings. We don't have
to study the Satanic Bible to know
our enemy for truth sheds a bright light on him
already. The Bible teaches to look at their
fruits and their works is what God Judges every man by-so
we can also use God tool to
know them.
I
have yet to hurl an epithet anywhere Lance. My
objection to Calvinism is for some very specific reasons with
or
without "firsthand knowledge or intricate and specific
detail" about Calvin the man. His teachings are enough. I
will
leave the man
to God. I have no desire to be an expert on John Calvin the
man or any other anti-Christ (meaning in
place of) figure for that matter
and this would include Athanasius, Augustine, Aquinas, et al.
along to the present
Papacy both rc
and protestant. I am happy to
leave you to tend to them while I press on to know the Lord and
the
power of His resurrection in my daily life.
Were I prone to worry Judy, YOU
would not be among those about whom I would. Why? I perceive you
to be a completely and utterly genuine believer, who esteems the
Scriptures highly and who lives what she believes. Now, when it
comes to the hurling of epithets at those servants of God about
whom you possess no firsthand knowledge, I'd put you alongside
DaveH and Blainer and their knowledge of the TRUE GOSPEL.
(Believe it or not, this is a sort of compliment,
Judy)
I wonder if the Bereans had done any
reading of primary source material when they examined what
Paul preached.
Also the apostle John, I wonder if he
had read source material when he exhorted 1st Century
Christians not to even
wish a
false teacher "godspeed" for if they did they would be a
"partaker of his evil deeds" If I were prone to worry
you would
worry me Lance. You are more concerned about these men than
you are about Jesus Himself and the
ministry of the Spirit of
Christ. IMO you need to do more primary reading
from the source of all Truth - then you
will more accurately be qualified to
discern between good and evil. Your qualifications are
not those of Christ.
YOU JUDY are not entitled to
call it anything, IMO. You've not done, insofar as I know,
any reading of primary source material (2 vol Institutes,
Commentaries). It's akin to hearing an atheist condemn the
teachings of the Scriptures based upon the same sort of
evidentiary inquiry that you've conducted with John
Calvin.
Would Calvinistic heresay be
acceptable Lance? Where did the doctrine called
Calvinism come from if not from
him? What should we call
doctrine taken from his institutes and taught in our 20th
Century Churches? Can I call
it teachings of Calvin that Lance
calls hearsay?
With apologies (sort of) in
advance to David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you
once again, Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE
DISCERNING THAN JOHN CALVIN? IMO, your regard for
Scriptures appears to be second to nobody on TT. (regard
NOT being the same thing as understanding). However, you
do indeed appear to read/study and live it insofar as
you are enabled. Scripture is a primary source for you.
Amen! for that. Now, other than the
blessed internet, how much of John Calvin's own
writings, have you actually read. Do you possess
anything whatsoever by him? If all that you know of him
would be classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and desist
from your unfounded allegations
hereafter. Stick to that which you claim to
understand, please?.
Sure they do, they camp
around John Calvin don't they? Why do you think
there are so many
different doctrines all
claiming to be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers
who believe that JC taught that encouraging
the baptism of the HS for the already
converted 'sums up the Law and Prophets'
Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to
seek the Baptism in
the Holy
Spirit... jt
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for reference:
7:12So in everything, do
[the good] to others [t]hat you would have
them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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