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They are not his ideas Lance,
Do you sell a Westminster Catechism at your
Bookstore? You will find them in there if you
have time to look up all the scriptures and fine print. This should keep you
busy for a while.
Judy:Give me the name of the church you attend. IFO
would be please to personally call your pastor.
I do not trust you as a conduit of his
ideas.
Hi Dean:
Thanks for your response and please pray for
me. I am in a Reformed Church right now ONLY to encourage
our son and DIL who want to raise our grandson in
Church but the more I learn about it the worse it becomes.
Our Pastor is smart, charismatic, and has been to
three different Bible schools and in four different denoms.
He has a Phd and THIS is what he has
chosen? It boggles the mind. Last week he was teaching
us that the
sin of "unbelief" had been taken care of at the
cross. So I guess that makes the whole of Romans 11 null
and
void and no branches have to be concerned about
being cut off and burned. The elect have it made in the
shade
but noone seems to be able to know for sure who
they are. It's confusion at best and an
antiChrist spirit at worst.
Don't know whether or not I can stay the
course.....
cd: Amen Judy for their fruits are enough-Studying their
teaching apart from their works
is the reason those -who support Calvin-on this site are
confused. We see their work so
we have no need for their teachings. We don't have to
study the Satanic Bible to know
our enemy for truth sheds a bright light on him already.
The Bible teaches to look at their
fruits and their works is what God Judges every man by-so we
can also use God tool to
know them.
I have
yet to hurl an epithet anywhere Lance. My objection to
Calvinism is for some very specific reasons with or
without "firsthand
knowledge or intricate and specific detail" about Calvin the
man. His teachings are enough. I will
leave the man to
God. I have no desire to be an expert on John Calvin the man or
any other anti-Christ (meaning in
place of) figure for
that matter and this would include
Athanasius, Augustine, Aquinas, et al. along to the present
Papacy both rc and
protestant. I am happy to leave you to
tend to them while I press on to know the Lord and the
power of His resurrection in my daily life.
Were I prone to worry Judy, YOU would not
be among those about whom I would. Why? I perceive you to be a
completely and utterly genuine believer, who esteems the Scriptures
highly and who lives what she believes. Now, when it comes to the
hurling of epithets at those servants of God about whom you possess no
firsthand knowledge, I'd put you alongside DaveH and Blainer and their
knowledge of the TRUE GOSPEL. (Believe it or not, this is a sort of
compliment, Judy)
I wonder if the Bereans had done any
reading of primary source material when they examined what Paul
preached.
Also the apostle John, I wonder if he had
read source material when he exhorted 1st Century Christians
not to even
wish a false
teacher "godspeed" for if they did they would be a "partaker of his
evil deeds" If I were prone to worry
you would worry
me Lance. You are more concerned about these men than you are about
Jesus Himself and the
ministry of the Spirit of Christ. IMO
you need to do more primary reading from the source of all
Truth - then you
will more accurately be qualified to
discern between good and evil. Your qualifications are not
those of Christ.
YOU JUDY are not entitled to call it
anything, IMO. You've not done, insofar as I know, any reading of
primary source material (2 vol Institutes, Commentaries). It's
akin to hearing an atheist condemn the teachings of the Scriptures
based upon the same sort of evidentiary inquiry that you've
conducted with John Calvin.
Would Calvinistic heresay be acceptable
Lance? Where did the doctrine called Calvinism come from
if not from
him? What should we call doctrine
taken from his institutes and taught in our 20th Century
Churches? Can I call
it teachings of Calvin that Lance calls
hearsay?
With apologies (sort of) in
advance to David Miller and Linda Shields, I ask you once
again, Judy: Do you believe that you are MORE DISCERNING THAN
JOHN CALVIN? IMO, your regard for Scriptures appears to
be second to nobody on TT. (regard NOT being the same thing as
understanding). However, you do indeed appear to read/study
and live it insofar as you are enabled. Scripture is a primary
source for you. Amen! for that. Now, other
than the blessed internet, how much of John Calvin's own
writings, have you actually read. Do you possess anything
whatsoever by him? If all that you know of him would be
classed as 'hearsay' then do cease and desist from your
unfounded allegations hereafter. Stick to that
which you claim to understand, please?.
Sure they do, they camp around John
Calvin don't they? Why do you think there are so
many
different doctrines all claiming to
be the truth?
..do Bible readers 'camp' around
theological error in your neck of the
woods?
CPL, Are [Bible] readers who believe
that JC taught that encouraging the baptism of the HS
for the already converted 'sums up the Law and
Prophets' Christian/s?
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Matt 7:11 is a
scripture that is used to encourage people to seek
the Baptism in the Holy
Spirit... jt
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for reference:
7:12So in everything, do [the
good] to others [t]hat you would have them do
to you, for this sums up the Law and the
Prophets.
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
judyt
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His
Commandments
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
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