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From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
 
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:00:29 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Huh?   I can't pray for what I don't understand because my prayer tongue is English??  !!    
 
The idea JD is that it is an exercise in faith because we don't know how to pray as we should so the Spirit
intercedes for us before the throne of grace - through us - by using our own voice to petition also it edifies.  
Huh ???
 
My wife prays in tongues.  
 
I hope she didn't receive her gift while she was a Mormon because these are false tongues.   "Tongues" come from God and have nothing to do with the "right church."
 
I have been around the experience for years and years, David.  I am just as much in the spirit as my wife during worship times.
 
How can you know this?  Because I have this Spirit, Judy.  And, it has been confirmed to me 100's of times in my 48 years as a disciple.                                                           Comparing ourselves amongst ourselves only proves we are not wise (though most of us
have done this at some time or other).  Huh ??
 
Time after time I have simply knelt during worship or stood with raised hands and just let it all soak in .    At those times,  I am fully aware of the promised intervention of the Spirit on my behalf.   God speakst to me, David, just as certainly as He does to you and, who knows, maybe more often.   
 
There are no second class "believers" JD but still what you describe is not the same as what David is speaking about.  We are talking about the same thing   AND   apparently you and I are not  (who said anything about second class believers  -- certainly not me). 
 
But the experience of Spirit filling  (read: spirit baptism) is not the center of my "new nature."  The Lordship of Christ is.    
The Lord has revealed to me the vanity of placing too much stock in "spiritual knowledge."  
 
There is vanity in the wrong kind of "spiritual knowledge" (the occult kind) but I have a hard time accepting that the
Lord would be counselling against Himself.   Since I did not suggest such,  I have no idea what you are talking about.  I am going to guess that neither do you. 
 
"The Lord is that Spirit and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty"  judyt    No kidding.   The end of legalism as we know it is found in these words of truth !!
 
 

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