a Mormon slang word used by them to describe all who are not of "the
[Mormon] truth?" "protestant" is another way of saying "unbeleiver" or
"pagan."
DAVEH: At first, I was not going to respond to this, John....since it
was a discussion that you are having with DavidM. However, I cannot in
good conscience let you make such an accusation without explaining that
you are mischaracterizing the way I (and most LDS folks, as I know
them) think. FTR......While I may view you to be a Protestant, I
certainly do not consider you a "unbeleiver" or
"pagan."
The Mormons insist on using this word because that is what their
buds do, in private.
DAVEH: LOL.....I think you are making this up, John.
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David, do you understand how the Mormons use this word
"protestant?" Do you understand that I do not like that
characterization? Do you understand that it is gross sectarianism
that insists on the separation between RCC and those who reject papel
authority? Do you know that there are millions of Catholics who do not
accept Papel authority? Do you understand that I have a right to
expect not to be branded with a Mormon slang word used by them to
describe all who are not of "the [Mormon] truth?" "protestant" is
another way of saying "unbeleiver" or "pagan." We are not fooling
anyone, here. I have seen their chat rooms !! Do you
understand that when DH uses this word, he necessarily attaches to it
ideas that are definitely not of my approveal?
This should be an easily resolved issue. But it is not. The
Mormons insist on using this word because that is what their buds do,
in private. All Mormons I know use this word and in the same
manner as Blaine and DH. Get off the pot and smell the roses. You
are not scoring any points with the Mormons in this.
jd
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John, do you understand the difference between a historical
perspective and a philosophical one?
Let's consider the philosophical concern a little more
closely. A Protestant is defined broadly as a member of a church
that rejects papal authority.
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Aimee rejected papal authority. Do you, John, accept or
reject the authority of the pope as being the vicar of Christ?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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Re: [TruthTalk] apostles and prophets
Poor DM. I have not been a part of the Churches of Christ
for some 32 years. My denominational background has nothing to do with
my theology at this late date. Secindly, Aimee Semple McPherson is
the founder of Four Square. She was not responding to a negative RCC
consideration. Certainly, I am no protestant and I have made the
reasoning for this claim quite clear. Mean versus green are the only
considrations I can see for the continued use of the word and the
continued need to attach me to the Churches of Christ.
jd
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,
DAVEH: I did remember that, DavidM. Even so, as I remember, WIKI
painted the CofC as Protestant as well.
However, in a recent discussion with you, I thought I understood
John to say that he currently is worshiping with a 4Sq group, which to
me indicates an association with a Protestant relationship, as I think
WIKI defined them.
David Miller wrote:
DaveH wrote:
If I remember correctly, you are a 4Sq
adherent, which as I understand it is a branch
of Protestantism.
John wrote:
That denomination did not come from the
Portestant response to RCC theology.
If I am remembering correctly, the historical root to the Four Square church
is Baptist. Aimee Semple McPherson at one time claimed to have been
ordained by the Baptists. I think later on she was ordained by the
Assemblies of God, but later disowned those credentials.
John wrote:
I see "protestant" as clubhouse name for
those who are apostate. That is how I
believe the term is used. I have seen posts
from Mormon to Mormon that gives me this
opinion.
DaveH, you have to understand that John's background is Church of Christ,
which is another restoration movement with historial roots similar to
Mormonism. Their attitude toward other "Protestants" is not unlike Mormons.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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