Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ as the incarnate God

[Lance Muir]

----- Original Message ----- From: Debbie Sawczak To: Lance Muir Sent: January 07, 2006 15:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ as the incarnate God [I'm quite excited because in the course of writing the second paragraph below, I became aware of knowing something important.]   From what I've read of the exchange, it's hard to tell what Judy really believes about Jesus. To me it seems that she does not respond to what is being said so much as to who is saying it: all she knows is that she must disagree with JD and Bill. This is what I mean when I characterize her as disingenuous.   How indefensible her statement to the effect that if something is beyond our human comprehension--in terms of logical deconstruction--it can't be true, that this is what is meant by "God gives understanding". It is in fact just the opposite. Through logic, ideas are entailed by, ultimately contained in, other ideas already in our heads. There would never be any need for revelation, nor any knight's moves, and ideas would have priority over persons. The tone of the whole Bible is otherwise. This is the Tree, you see, and the whole Bible is about knowing God versus eating from the Tree. We come back to the book I just bought ("Relational logic"--as opposed to Greek logic!) and to McGrath's intellectual shift having so much to do with "getting to know" Torrance. It has come up before in conversations you and I have had about changing one's mind: it always has to do with relationship. You know things by opening yourself to a person. Persons have priority over ideas. Hey, that is Polanyi, too!! Wow, this all meshes!! Just composing this paragraph made some connections obvious to me.      D