Yes, John, very well stated. Sin can and does exist apart from the Law. And you are also right that Jonah was not calling them to live their lives as the Jews. So you see, there are many things upon which we agree. There is nothing explicitly stated in this post with which I disagree. Perhaps you should reconsider the depth of our disagreements. Perhaps you object to me more on a personal and relationship level and less on an ideological level. Could that be clouding your judgment of what I write?
David Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel? well, Nineveh was not under the Law. Jonah does not call them to the Law. And it is the Law that defines sin to be sin. Can sin exist apart from the law? Paul says it does. Jonah is certainly not calling them to live their lives as the Jews lived theirs !! jd -------------- Original message -------------- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'm with Bill on this one. God is with Bill on this one, IMO, of course. I'm not surprised since you and Bill are so into culture and all that - but don't bring God into your folly. The pagan Persian City of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah (Luke 11:32) And what do you suppose his message to them was? From: Judy Taylor How interesting - Debbie Sawzak is of a Calvinistic bent; because after all it is his doctrine that claims one must be regenerated before it is possible to repent because of "total depravity" and this comes out of a misunderstanding of the spiritual realities involved. On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: From: Debbie Sawczak Is repentance part of the Gospel? Yes, the NT is replete with directives to repent. But repentance is not a means by which or through which people are saved. It is Jesus Christ who is our Savior. Salvation is in him, complete with mediation on our behalf. Repentance is therefore our response to the greatest news the world has ever heard; it is our response to the good news of Jesus Christ. Amen. Lance, I now see what you meant today about the exchange bw Bill and David, having read the full message from Bill. The above is the crux, isn't it? It (esp the part I bolded) reminds me of what Victor said numerous times in his Human Person course: I know Christ first of all, before anything else, as my Saviour. The accountability, the repentance, arise out of that. D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/2006 ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
