At all times in this discussion,  I have it in the back of my mind that what was begun in the creation of man will not be completed until our personal resurrection and as a result of the work of Christ.   It is exciting to me to think that there will be a time when I have no choices. 
 
Who spoke of freedom as antithetical to freedom of choice.  Was it Victor? 
 
 
jd
 
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It may be helpful to distinguish between duality and dualism. 
cd; Yeah what he said:-)
 
I'll defer to John's comments for now, Dean, as his are insightful and I do not wish to devote the time to the topic which would be needed to draw out the distinctions. Suffice it to say that (1) I see two distinct natures at work in the person of Christ prior to his death and resurrection: a human nature, replete with all the limitations commensurate with fallen humanity; and a Divine nature, which is fully God. (2) I also see two distinct natures at work in his person after the resurrection: the same Divine nature as before, along with a new, glorified human nature. (3) As it pertains to us as Christians, I see two distinct natures at work in our members: an old fallen nature which refuses to stay down (if you will allow some latitude with this language); and a new nature which is that of the resurrected Christ, as ministered to us by the Holy Spirit. Moreover, (4) I believe that the old nature will be erased in our resurrection, never again to rear its ugly h ead; that will leave us with but one nature, the same nature which we received from Christ in the new birth.
 
Dean, I hope this makes sense and helps you to understand how I can find agreement with David on the topic of dualism, without desiring to delve into a detailed discussion on its distinctions in a separate thread.
 
Bill 
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From: Dean Moore
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It may be helpful to distinguish between duality and dualism. 
cd; Yeah what he said:-)
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From: Taylor
Sent: February 02, 2006 21:23
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'i DON'T UNDERSTAND' -David Miller'

It may be "dualism," but it is not symmetrical, the evil having equal power and equal authority to that of the good. The flesh of Christ began an embryo and matured from there, the whole time fully united to the one who spoke the universe into existence and held it together by the power of his will. In other words, the relationship between God and man in the person of Jesus Christ was asymmetrical, the will of God constantly converting the will of man.
 
By the way, "dualism" in itself is not a bad word. Like so many other things, it is only certain types of dualism which are problematic.
 
Bill 
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Wholly good and ATST wholly evil is dualism JD - judyt
 
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:47:38 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And now that Christ has reconciled all things unto Himself  --  what do we now  suppose??   Further,  Gal 3:26-27 speaks of us being into Christ.   Jesus speaks of You in me,  I in you and they in us.   Kiss off dualism.
 
jd
 
 
 
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..same with male & female--'made He them' says Moses
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:12:53 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
myth (acc to Moses, God & Man are originally family, not categorically polar opposites)
 
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:01:29 -0500 Judith H Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
wholly God and wholly man is a dualis[m]
 
 

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