Like I said :
I.Q., culture, social statis, educational opportunities, geneaologies, ethnicity, religion and the child's government.
After birth, all of the above plus life's experiences.
If God's love is not big enough to take all that into consideration when He jusges for the intentions of the heart, that God is too small.
We will never agree, Judy. You are a work's salvationist in addition to the cultish orientation of your thought process. I have made my point. You have done whatever it is that you just did. That's pretty much it.
jd
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God is no respecter of any man's person - and we are all given the same opportunity - Paul madethe right choice and counted all you list below "dung" compared to the knowledge of Christ. PS:God's love is one one side of the scale with his justice on the other. One is incomplete/partial withoutthe other. Eve being deceived had the best of intentions; her heart was deceived and God does notchange. Lesson 1. Those who fell in the wilderness because they presumed upon God's grace... judytOn Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:04:35 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I.Q., culture, social statis, educational opportunities, geneaologies, ethnicity, religion and the child's government.After birth, all of the above plus life's experiences.jdIf God's love is not big enough to take all that into consideration when He jusges for the intentions of the heart, that God is too small.jd-------------- Original message --------------
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Everyone is born into this world with an equal opportunity to choose who they will serve.along with the opportunity to grow in wisdom and grace - or in deceit and darkness... judytWhat do you believe separates ppl at birth JD? judytOn Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:01:15 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:I thought Dean was saying that all men are born equal. That, of course, is not true. Some are way more stupid than others, growing up without understanding nor the ability to comprehend the deeper things of life. God loves them all, of course, but that does not make then "equal."jd----- Original Message -----From: Judith H TaylorSent: 2/9/2006 4:21:06 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?WRONG!!! JDS - God inspired all of it; the Holy Spirit did not expire after Moses penned thePentateuch and God is a FATHER all the way through the Bible. Father in Hebrew means Fatherand guess what? Father in Greek also means Father.On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:43:05 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Once again, this time it is John, not Lance !! Using your example below, do you know the difference between the Hebrew text and the English translation of that text? God "inspired" the Hebrew text, Dean, not the English translation of that text.That is clearly and obvioiusly what I am saying. You need a lexicon , NOT A DICTIONARY.jd (or maybe it is Lance)----- Original Message -----To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: DSent: 2/8/2006 5:20:35 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?The culture gave us the language of a masculine God, David. I am surprised you made the same intellectual mistake as Dean.jdcd: So God directing the writing of Moses with the first five book had nothing to do with what was written?Is this what you are saying Lance.-------------- Original message --------------
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> Dean rightly understood that your premise was that the Jewish CULTURE
> attributed masculinity to God. Dean made a most excellent response to your
> position.
>
> David Miller.
>
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> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
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> cd: This makes no sense at all to me John-The culture decided what God
> is?Can they now decide he is a women? What if they decide He is a calf?
>
> Good move, Dean !!! Don't deal with the arugment presented claiming
> ignorace of my intent. And what faith should I have in further explanation
> in view of the fact that you did not unde rstand what I wrote in the first
> place? Why is it that you cliam to understand the biblical message but
> cannot understand what I have said? Amazing. Intellectually, we are not
> on the same planet. You, of course, being much my superior.
>
> See ya,
>
> jd
>
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> Cc: Dean Moore
> Sent: 2/8/2006 12:31:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God female?
>
>
> Keep on ignoring Gen 1:27 , Dean.
>
> There is no sex with God. He is neither male or female in a sexual sort of
> way. And why is the masculine used? Ever heard of "cultural demands?"
> Since God is not an "it," since He is a person, we must use either
> maculine or feminine. The culture of the Jew gave us the masculine
> reference. The fact of the matter is bound to scripture -- namely Gen
> 1:27. ...................... you'll r e c o g ni ze that reference because it is the
> one you and Judy keep ignoring. There, we have a clear (to most)
> revelation concerning a small aspect of "God's image." Since one cannot be
> both "male and female," since Adam AND Eve both are the image of God,
> "the image of God" has little to nothing to do the gender.
>
> jd
> cd: This makes no sense at all to me John-The culture decided what God
> is?Can they now decide he is a women? What if they decide He is a calf?
> Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he
> him; male and female created he them.
> First this passage says that God created man in his image- then it goes on
> to say He created both males and females.I see no contradictions to me
> statements here-unless one believe there is no difference between males and
> females. He is the mescaline. I realize you cannot understand this but maybe
> others can John..The below says th at m an wa s cre ated in the image of God
> ,"BUT" women was is the glory of man. Clearly a difference is shown.
> 1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is
> the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
> cd: As you didn't receive this the first time-I am resending it-God has a
> masculine nature.Jesus had a masculine nature and a masculine body.
> Masculine
> M`ASCULINE, a. [L. masculinus, from masculus, mas..]
> 1. Having the qualities of a man; strong; robust; as a masculine body.
> 2. Resembling man; coarse; opposed to delicate or soft; as masculine
> features.
> 3. Bold; brave; as a masculine spirit or courage.
> 4. In grammar,the masculine gender of words is that which expresses a male,
> or something analogous to it; or it is the gender appropriated to males,
> though not always expressing the male sex.
>
>
>
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> cd: Here is another Bibical spirit that is a male?
> 1Sa 28:8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went,
> and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I
> pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom
> I shall name unto thee.
> 1Sa 28:9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath
> done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards,
> out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me
> to die?
> 1Sa 28:10 And Saul swore to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth,
> there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.
> 1Sa 28:11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said,
> Bring me up Samuel.
> 1Sa 28:12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and > ; th e woman sp ok e to S aul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art
> Saul.
> 1Sa 28:13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou?
> And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.
> 1Sa 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man
> cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was
> Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself..
> 1Sa 28:15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me
> up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war
> against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither
> by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest
> make known unto me what I shall do
> 1Sa 28:16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the
> LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy? < BR>&g t; 1Sa 28:1 7 And the L ORD hath d one to him, as he spoke by me: for the LORD
> hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbor, even
> to David:
> 1Sa 28:18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst
> his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto
> thee this day.
>
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