Except in Canada that is.... --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd Amen that, David. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Miller > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 24, 2006 08:40 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > Misinformation here, Lance. TruthTalk did not fire anybody. The > moderator resigned. I still think he would have done a fine job if > he had allowed some dialogue about what he was doing. > > I do agree, however, that Christians (and you know how I use this > term) cannot be trusted anymore than anyone else. > > The liberty of the teacher should be allowed, whether we trust the > teacher or not. Our ability to communicate with the teacher should > be enough to help curb any undesirable behavior. I favor > communication and persuasion over censorship. How about you? > > David Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Muir > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:49 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > Censorship you say, David? TT just fired a censor? Christians can > be no more trusted than anyone else. I'd not expect you to agree on > this though in granting 'Senator' CDM a stint you illustrated my > point. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Miller > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 23, 2006 16:49 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > Let the teacher decide what is relevant. They don't teach all > the competing ideas of evolution either, so what is the problem? The > problem of censorship should concern you because the truth is not > afraid of evidence. You should be concerned whenever one side uses > legal maneuvers and rhetoric to prevent the other side from being > heard. > > David Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] ; [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > And who is going to present these competing versions of > creation -- the average Joe school teacher ?? Do you have any > idea what an antagonist educator would do with such information? > Actually, this "creationism in the school" thingy is really starting > to sound like a bad idea !! > > jd > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You remind me, Lance, of another show... Back to the > Future, where Biff is hitting Marty McFly on the head, "Hello, Hello, > Anybody Home? Think, McFly, Think." > > To further elucidate my point: having numerous creationist > models of origins is not a reason to exclude them from our > educational system. There are numerous models of evolution as well. > The premise by which you think you can rest your case is rather > elusive. > > David Miller > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Muir > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > Homer Simpson, while attempting to steal a candy bar from > a vending machine, got his arm stuck. He dragged that one over to > another for a second attempt thus getting both arms securely locked > in. Somehow, with his nose, he managed to dial 911 for assistance. > The operator asked Homer 'Are each of your hands wrapped around candy > bars?' Homer replied, 'your point being?' > > David: You sound a little like Homer in your reply. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Miller > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 23, 2006 10:59 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > Lance wrote: > > There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish. > > The same can be said for evolutionists. So what is > your point? > > David Miller > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Muir > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] on Creationism > > > There are as many 'species' of creationists as fish. > Put a million of 'em at the keyboards of computers and they'd come up > with.....well...what they've already come up with. I rest my case > your honor. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Judy Taylor > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 23, 2006 06:44 > Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism > > > Why advocate teaching what you don't know JD? As > has already been noted "Only when we prove > evolution do we need to concern ourselves with > "harmonizing" evolutionism with theism. Evidence that > this level of proof has not been achieved includes > the long list of scientists and others who have abandoned > Darwinism because they became convinced that the > scientific evidence DOES NOT support it. So why > would you want to warp young minds with useless > information that is not proven? judyt > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm talking about fundy creationist versions in > the school systems and you are talking about religious people!!! > Amazing > > Maybe we should install a different creationist > version for every major school system .................... I am > sure we can find enough fundy ideas to go around. That way , you > would have to worry about consensus and no one will have the > slightest idea what to believe. but you and Kev will be happy. > CONSENSUS BE DAMNED. KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL MAKE YOU FREE !! > jd > > > > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I surmised as much JD; my point being that > religious ppl have many > and varied points of view about anything and > everything and this is no > measure by which to gauge what is needful or > true. > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:20:02 +0000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Do you even know what this thread is about, > Judy? > WHICH VIEW OF CREATIONISM GETS INTO THE > CIRRICULUM -- HUH ??? > > > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > So? > There isn't a single view of the whole > church that is agreed upon > by the whole church either. What does > that prove? judyt > > On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:27:56 +0000 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Perhaps the Bishop has the same > concerns I do. I know this -- > there isn't a single view of > creationism that is agreed upon by the whole church. > > jd > > > > -------------- Original message > -------------- > From: "David Miller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > John wrote: > > The world in which we live would > reject > > any mention of God in the > evolutionary process, > > IMO. But creationism in the > schools? Could > > that not be considered the > beginnings of a fanatical > > fundamentalist take-over of the > culture? > > ROTFLOL. I sure hope you were being > facetious on purpose. > > John wrote: > > But to allow a mere statement that > suggests God > > is somehow in control as the > Creator(?) If this > > could be presented into the secular > system of > > education without it being coopted > by the fundies > > -- go for it. But I doubt that > it can. What a shame > > that radical fundamentalism within > Christiandom forces > > the Body to dismiss a perfectly > wonderful opportunity > > to introduce the Creator to others. > > > In case you did not notice, the > fundamentalists are not causing the acknowledgement of our Creator to > be forbidden in schools. It is the liberal loonies like this > Archbishop of Canterbury who are doing this. > > David Miller > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls > for ridiculously low rates. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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