Personally, I don't like the TDK. I don't think that we should have one either.
I started off using the TDK. I will admit that it was easy to get started that way. The problem is that I never learned how it was working until I finally threw it away and started over without the TDK. It was only then that I learned what all of the settings were in the various property files. Granted, I was using the TDK in 2.1. When I moved to 2.2, I stopped using the TDK. That could have had a great deal to do with my problems concerning the TDK. I would rather see one or two sample apps that are ready to be built with Maven replace the TDK. One should use JSP. The other should use Velocity. I think this would be much more helpful to new users. -------------------------------------------- Quinton McCombs NequalsOne - HealthCare marketing tools mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.NequalsOne.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Age Mooy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:26 AM > To: 'Turbine Users List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RFC] We need a new TDK > > > > What about implementing this as a maven plugin ? > > I have also been thinking about doing something like this, > but I simply can't spare the time. I do volunteer to help > with the testing and contribute patches and enhancements though. > > Age > > > > Hi, > > > > due to many mails on this list, I think most of us agree that > > Turbine definitely needs a new and improved TDK. > > > > Cornerstones of this are: > > > > Must have: > > - Thoroughly tested on *ix and Win32 > > - Thoroughly tested with JDK 1.3.1 and 1.4.1 > > - Using Turbine 2.2 with easy upgrading to 2.3 > > - Stable level of jars to avoid frustration with beginners > > - Preconfigured Servlet container to get to speed quickly > > - Well documented set of property files for Turbine and Torque. > > - Documentation on how to use the TDK. > > > > Should have: > > - Use maven as the build tool for all the tdk tasks. Include > > a preconfigured, > > working and stable maven installation. > > - Include a simple "one file, one jar" database for quick > testing and > > examples for moving to other popular databases. > > > > Nice to have: > > - Alternatively: Use ant as build tools for beginner that are > > unfamiliar > > to maven > > - Include a fully documented demo application which shows > > "best practice" > > development with Turbine > > - Include a security configuration application which allows > > easy configuration > > of security objects like users, groups, roles and permissions > > - A SQL client to access the various databases > > > > > > All of the Turbine developers know about these problems. But > > unfortunately the most seasoned developers who are able to > > fix these problems don't use the current TDK or don't feel a > > personal need to continue with the current TDK. Or have moved > > on to greener fields and left the Turbine/TDK development > altogether. > > > > The main problem in developing such a NewTDK is time. I'd be > > willing to do this (It would fit well with another project > > that I might start shortly and I do have a small Turbine > > skeleton hammered out but it needs some external installed > > tools to work and is quite specific to my linux based > > development environment) but I'd need either a sponsor or a > > company willing to found the development of such an environment. > > > > If anyone of you knows an organization or company which wants > > to sponsor the development of a new TDK, just contact me directly. > > > > Regards > > Henning > > > > -- > > Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ > > > > Java, perl, Solaris, Linux, xSP Consulting, Web Services > > freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- > hero for hire > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
