"Quinton McCombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Granted, I was using the TDK in 2.1.  When I moved to 2.2, I stopped
>using the TDK.  That could have had a great deal to do with my problems
>concerning the TDK.

I think, most of us did this. The 2.1 TDK simply didn't work with T2.2

I've never looked into the current TDK. I consider it a huge achievement
that Martin was able to get a 2.2 TDK running.

>I would rather see one or two sample apps that are ready to be built
>with Maven replace the TDK.  One should use JSP.  The other should use
>Velocity.  I think this would be much more helpful to new users.

Please read what I proposed. Basically a new TDK would be

- preconfigured servlet container
- (maybe) preconfigured, simple database e.g. hsqldb
- preconfigured build tools (maven, maybe ant)
- some ant/maven tasks to copy an application into the servlet
  container for testing (tdk:install, tdk:clean, tdk:deploy)

- a small skeleton to set up a build environment outside
  the webapps directory (!). Small means, my current skeleton
  has 25 kBytes and consists mainly of TR.props, Log4j.props
  and a little ant script to create the directory structure.

- demo apps
- documentation

Well, you might not need it and I might not need it, but getting all
the parts together for testing and debugging a turbine app can be
quite cumbersome and most of us learned how to do this by using the
TDK. 

BTW: Internally I use "META" for this "new tdk": 
"Maven Environment for Turbine Applications" :-)

        Regards
                Henning
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