Hi folks, I'm hoping to just kindle some ( friendly ) discussion about
TW. It seems like a real wildcard right now in the TG2 future. I
personally think that if we are to pick TW, we need more people on it
than just Alberto because it's complicated, and he's busy. ( For which I
can 100% sympathize.) 

Problem is, when TW works, it's wicked cool. When it doesn't, or you
can't figure it out, it's like the TG version of mod_rewrite, confusing
voodoo that scares away small children and kills your app dead just when
you thought everything was going to work. Right now, it is ( I think )
being perceived as languishing, it got too much attention before being
ready for prime time I guess, and Alberto's life got in the way. So it's
being dismissed by Pyloners and others and that is too bad because it
allows some really nice patterns with SA, the way you can add properties
in objects that map automatically to the widget fields and so forth. 

I'm hoping to work on DBSprocket/Mechanic and TW and their docs in the
not-too-distant future ( March on I think, current albatross is getting
closer to dead ) but if I'm going to invest a lot of time in digging in
to that code I would want to be sure that it's not just going to be
abandoned, and it pains me to see discussion on other lists where people
are saying that what TW does is not worth the pain of the docs and rough
edges. 

Problems I see:
- needs to work with new formencode and whatever data we chuck at it
- needs to be easier to get up and running with minimal pain
- needs better api ref and examples and tutorials
- changing/controlling templating options needs to be better
- some weird monkey patching issues need to be either smoothed out, or
eradicated ( ie, the voodoo of adding FilteringSchema if on TG, huh? )

So, um, what am I asking? Uh, who's interested? Thoughts? Can we change
how this aspect of TG is being run? Alberto, should we try to change
this into a more team effort? Give Chris P more reigns as he seems to be
on a crazy ass work spree? 

We need mystery step two here before profit! I feel like widgets is the
giant TG secret weapon in the barn that most people are afraid to use
because it killed those pigs last summer and the manual got all covered
in corn mash and only old Joe from up the hill what's really going in
there and so the others wonder why we keep hanging around that scary
looking barn anyway ... 

Thanks for listening to my drivel, 
Iain


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