I assume that a committer, once elected, is active in the entire code base.
This bothers me a little. I currently
work entirely in the C++ implementation and do almost nothing with the Java
code. I think I could easily reach a
situation where I have done all the things required of a committer (whatever
they turn out to be) in C++ land and
nevertheless be largely ignorant of the Java code base. In fairness, I can
also see the mirror image happening to
someone else. Does that matter?

Geoff.

On 04/07/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Also forgot to mention the wiki is a god place to add scenarios you
are interested in either from an end-user perspective or as potential
implementor:

http://wiki.apache.org/ws/Tuscany/TuscanyJava/Scenarios

Jim

On Jul 4, 2006, at 3:44 AM, Jim Marino wrote:

> JIRA also can handle documentation, website, etc. "bugs" and
> "enhancements" if you want the proverbial notches on the bedpost ;-)
>
> On Jul 4, 2006, at 3:38 AM, kelvin goodson wrote:
>
>> +1 from me on taking into account diverse activities, but I must
>> declare a
>> vested interest.
>> I'm encouraged by this discussion, since I'd like to become a
>> committer, and
>> have had that niggling feeling that if it's notches on the jira
>> bedpost that
>> are the primary measure, then it's going to take a while longer
>> than I had
>> hoped.  I have been doing a number of things which are material
>> contributions which haven't resulted in direct code updates.
>>
>> Regards, Kelvin.
>>
>> On 7/3/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2006, at 1:35 AM, ant elder wrote:
>>>
>>> > There's a number of people who've been contributing patches to
>>> > Tuscany for
>>> > some time now so we should start thinking about what it takes
>>> to be
>>> > made a
>>> > committer.
>>> >
>>> > An old Incubator webpage had this to say (the page isn't available
>>> > right
>>> > now):
>>> >
>>> > "If a developer has contributed a significant number of high-
>>> quality
>>> > patches, is interested in continuing the contribution, has
>>> > demonstrated the
>>> > ability to work well with others under the Apache guidelines, it
>>> > may be
>>> > proposed to grant that developer commit access."
>>> >
>>> > I think it should take a bit more than code to be made a
>>> committer -
>>> > participation in mailing list discussions, the weekly IRC chats,
>>> > votes, and
>>> > things like that.
>>> Agree with being more than just code. One thing though I would
>>> say is
>>> people shouldn't be required to do all things, i.e. some may not be
>>> able to make IRC or just not feel comfortable "speaking up". I do
>>> think, though, it's really important to participate in things other
>>> than code such as the mailing lists. I do however, think we should
>>> weight things towards "material" contributions (not just code, it
>>> could be documentation, the web site, etc.) when deciding on
>>> commitership.
>>>
>>> > And its not just code, high-quality patches could include
>>> > things for documentation or web site. Right now i think it
>>> > shouldn't be to
>>> > hard to become a committer, if someone has been demonstrating an
>>> > interest in
>>> > the project for a while we should encourage that.
>>> >
>>> It seems to me there are two types of commiters. Those that make
>>> substantial contributions over a shorter period of time and those
>>> that make smaller, incremental contributions over a longer-time
>>> frame. I think we should accommodate both and perhaps outline it in
>>> documentation that could be put on the web site. For newbies coming
>>> to the project, it would be nice to be able to read what was
>>> expected
>>> to become a commiter.
>>>
>>> Ant, are you willing to take a stab at doing this since you've been
>>> making some good points w.r.t the community aspects of commitership?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> > What do others think?
>>> >
>>> >   ...ant
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>> Kelvin Goodson
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