+1, good for both projects. And to reply to a comment in the original email - I'm not sure that we really need an explicit vote for this can just assume from all the positive comments so far and lazy consensus that its fine unless someone complains (which i'm sure they wont).
...ant On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Simon Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This proposal looks good to me. I'd be happy to see the > Apache Tuscany project listed as an interested party. > > Simon > > > Stéphane Drapeau wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I created an entry [0] in the Eclipse bugzilla with the proposal. > > Your comments are welcome. > > > > Best regards > > > > Stéphane Drapeau > > Obeo > > > > [0]: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225956 > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Haleh, Raymond, > > > > > > Thank you for your answers. > > > > > > Haleh, you're right. I make no distinction between tools for SCA > > > developers and tools for SCA users. The goal of the project is to > > > develop > > > tools to help users of the SCA technology. I will modify my sentence. > > > > > > Stéphane Drapeau > > > Obeo > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:21 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > > > > > This looks good since it looks like tools for SCA will get more > > > > focus :) > > > > I have a question. > > > > > > > > You mention "the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set > > > > of > > > > tools for SCA developers and SCA users". > > > > > > > > What is the difference between SCA developer and SCA user in this > > > > context? > > > > > > > > Haleh > > > > > > > > On 4/2/08, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Jean-Sebastien, Haleh, all, > > > > > > > > > > The proposal is a 3 pages document describing the scope/intent of > > > > > the > > > > > proposed project. > > > > > > > > > > The outline is: > > > > > 1. Introduction: the proposition of the transformation of the > > > > > STP/SCA > > > > > component into a sub-project named SCA Tools under the top level > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > STP. > > > > > 2. Background: presentation of STP + presentation of the existing > > > > > > > > > STP/SCA > > > > > > > > > component. > > > > > 3. Description: the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a > > > > > set > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > tools for SCA developers and SCA users. Another goal is also to > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > sub-project with other components of STP (Service Creation, Policy > > > > > > > > > Editor) > > > > > > > > > 4. Proposed components: SCA Domain Model (SCA meta model), SCA > > > > > > > > > Composite > > > > > > > > > Designer, SCA Composite Editors (tree, xml and form), SCA > > > > > Integration > > > > > (integration with other STP components) > > > > > 5. Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects: STP, EMF, GMF, M2M, > > > > > ... > > > > > 6. Organization: this sub-project will take place under the top > > > > > level > > > > > project STP. > > > > > 7. A list of proposed initial committers. > > > > > 8. Code Contribution: the Eclipse STP/SCA component will be the > > > > > > > > > initial > > > > > > > > > code. > > > > > 9. Interested parties: this section lists companies and > > > > > communities > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > support the creation of the project. They don't take other > > > > > > > > > engagements. > > > > > > > > > 10. Tentative Plan for 2008 and 2009. > > > > > > > > > > Our goal is to identify formally the scope of the tools that we > > > > > > > > > develop > > > > > > > > > around SCA. The new status will provide some advantages. > > > > > - I think that the SCA tools will be more visible in the Eclipse > > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > if we are identified as a sub-project. > > > > > - From the users point of view, it will not change anything. > > > > > - Concerning us, we should be more formal: clear roadmap, new > > > > > features > > > > > described/discussed first in bugzilla, ... > > > > > - It will also present some advantages for Obeo by becoming a > > > > > > > > > sub-project > > > > > > > > > leader. > > > > > > > > > > In the near future all STP components will become STP > > > > > sub-projects. To > > > > > summarize, all of this is purely administrative. > > > > > I will send you the proposal document ASAP. > > > > > If you have any questions, don't hesitate. > > > > > > > > > > Haleh, yesterday I sent you more information about the SCA > > > > > Composite > > > > > Designer on the thread named "[Website] - Tooling for Java SCA". > > > > > You > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > add > > > > > it on the web page. Tell me if you need more/different > > > > > information. > > > > > My post describes what version of Tuscany can be used. I also > > > > > > > > > introduce a > > > > > > > > > tutorial that I made. This tutorial is based on the SCA designer > > > > > and > > > > > Tuscany > > > > > 1.1. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Stéphane Drapeau > > > > > Obeo > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Stephane, > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to Tuscany. How will changing the status of STP SCA from > > > > > > a > > > > > > component > > > > > > to a sub project change its future development and focus? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuscany community had asked about tools for SCA and because of > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > recently added a website page [1] to collect more information > > > > > > about > > > > > > available open source tools. I added a link to STP there. It > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > great > > > > > > if you could provide more content about what is available and > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > version > > > > > > > > > > > of Tuscany it works with. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/java-sca-tools.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Haleh > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stéphane Drapeau wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm Stéphane Drapeau from Obeo. I work on tools for SCA and > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lead > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Eclipse SCA component which is a component of the STP project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]. > > > > > > > > > Currently, I'm writing a proposal to change the status of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > STP > > > > > > > > > SCA > > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > component* to STP/SCA Tools *sub project*. > > > > > > > > I would like know if I can refer Tuscany community as > > > > > > > > interested > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our proposal. It's purely administrative. > > > > > > > > Jean Sebastien told me that the Tuscany community must vote > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the discussion is open ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stéphane Drapeau > > > > > > > > Obeo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]: http://www.eclipse.org/stp/sca/index.php > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stephane, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting here, it'll enable the whole Tuscany > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > > > > involved in the discussion around your SCA editor proposal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell us a bit more about the proposal? do you have an > > > > > > > > > > > > > outline? > > > > > > > > > Also can you help us understand what it means to be listed under > > > > > > > "interested parties" in such a proposal? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any questions or thoughts from others on the list? > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Jean-Sebastien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
