On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:44 AM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have not seen or read everything that Dave has said (there is an
>> obvious expert on this here and I will wait with the rest for the
>> definitive word), but I have seen and read a lot, and I do not recall him
>> expressing an opinion about who would replace him, or if he would like LS
>> to continue without him.
>>
>
> I also don't ever recall hearing that opinion from Dave. And yes: this is
> all just a stall until the SME pays us a visit.
>
>
>> My guess though is that there is significantly less value to CBS in
>> having WWP do a show for them if it is not called "The Late Show". So even
>> if CBS would want a non-Late Show from WWP, they almost certainly would pay
>> less for it without the Late Show brand. CBS suffered so long without a
>> brand name for a late night talk show that it seems unthinkable that they
>> would willingly let their very successful brand go with Dave's retirement
>> without offering a pretty good price to WWP to keep it going.
>>
>
> Here I disagree, because the brand is Dave and not "The Late Show" as
> evidenced by the fact that its been almost 20 years now and everyone still
> slips occasionally and calls it "Late Night". "The Tonight Show" was a
> brand. The unknown goes back to the first part of this: if the idea is the
> next person is "Dave's Successor", then CBS wants WWP to be involved. If
> it's a new show, then I would think CBS would be more likely to own the
> property.
>
>
>> So, yes, I do expect to see 'Late Show with John Oliver", produced by
>> Worldwide Pants, debuting on CBS sometime around Labor Day of 2014...
>>
>> Or "Neil Patrick Harris's Cavalcade," produced by CBS, debuting around
> Labor Day 2015.
>

We had DaveCon last week and I was there for the first time in a few years.
We talked to several staff members, but the issue of what happens after
Dave call it a day did not come up because it means the end of jobs, and
possibly careers for these people. My impression is that the decision is
Dave's to make and if he is keeping any staff in the loop it's the
executive producers and they have no incentive to talk to anybody from
outside.

After watching the damage done to NBC by their handling of Tonight Show
transitions, we can assume CBS and WWP are going to coordinate Dave's
step-down and the future of the 11:35 slot. The reason to keep WWP involved
is to have experienced staff and crew (though I think the crew are CBS
employees) for the new show.

I think the real conversations that will determine what happens in that
slot will be between CBS and companies that currently advertise during the
LS. If the advertisers want to see some continuity and will pay for it, CBS
will keep the show in the Ed Sullivan Theater and keep WWP involved. If the
advertisers want a different direction that's where CBS will go.

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