A funny Alex Jones update of where he is available on the internet. Check out @JAdomian’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/JAdomian/status/1038324839856013312?s=09
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 4:01 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > Some Twitter content pulled after coverage by CNN. > > LINK > <http://thehill.com/policy/technology/401170-some-alex-jones-removed-from-twitter-after-being-mentioned-by-cnn> > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 10:53 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > >> They don't have to provide the audience. Merely a chance to reach them. >> >> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:33 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:47 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Free speech pretty much requires an audience. >>>> >>> >>> Perhaps. But there is no legal guarantee which forces a company to >>> provide such an audience >>> >>> It’s not really free speech if the only place you can say it is, say, in >>>> front of the Jehovah’s Witness Hall. So Alex Jones can proselytize as much >>>> as he wants from his website, but as Adam noted, “to a certain generation, >>>> access to YouTube or Facebook is tantamount to how we communicate in 2018.” >>>> Video is probably Alex Jones’ most effective way to communicate. I followed >>>> him daily for about three or four months about eight years ago and while he >>>> has crazy stuff written on his website, his absolutely most batcrap crazy >>>> stuff comes from his videos. YouTube has close to a monopoly on delivery of >>>> video, except for what Vimeo and the porn sites. So getting kicked off >>>> YouTube and trying to deliver a video message is almost like requiring >>>> someone build their own sidewalk to talk to the public. >>>> The classic defense of free speech is Milton's Areopagitica, which >>>> argues that if truth and lies fight it out in public, truth will win. >>>> Sadly, Jones has shown that is not true. How people believe, for instance, >>>> that a school shooting was staged so someone could take away guns is >>>> incomprehensible. But as with a lot of Trump supporters, facts don’t >>>> matter. Truth is not winning in a public forum. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:19 PM Doug Eastick <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> side story..... >>>>> >>>>> honest.... I stumbled across the story because I like music festivals >>>>> and EDM (electronic dance music)...... I probably saw it on reddit >>>>> /r/Coachella or something. >>>>> >>>>> There is a DJ that got tired of youtube taking down his 60 minutes >>>>> videos of his sets. youtube (or someone) claimed copyright issues. So he >>>>> started uploading them to pornhub.com. I didn't bookmark the video, >>>>> and searching for it on pornhub is not giving me the result I am seeking >>>>> to >>>>> make my point, so I'll just go back to watching Big Brother now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 11:05 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:22 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The interesting things is that these companies tend to be quite at >>>>>>> good at keeping some things off their sites - notably porn. Sure they >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> end up banning Renaissance paintings, iconic photographs from the >>>>>>> Vietnam >>>>>>> war, and mothers feeding their babies. But the algorithms seem >>>>>>> reasonably >>>>>>> good at identifying bare skin. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I feel like this actually supports my side of the argument. When >>>>>> FB censors classic art, historically important photographs and images of >>>>>> breastfeeding mothers, I do feel like it is an unjustified limitation on >>>>>> free speech. If they want to ban porn fine, but put in the effort to make >>>>>> at least some distinction between that and the other important and >>>>>> non-pornographic representations of human nudity. And since these are >>>>>> fuzzy >>>>>> categories, be prepared to err on the side of allowing a little bit of >>>>>> porn >>>>>> so we don’t lose important aspects of humanity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, I do insist this is about free speech, though it if helps you >>>>>> can read that as “culture of free speech” or “free speech values” if it >>>>>> helps distinghiush it from the First Amendment. The US Constitution >>>>>> guarantees speech free of government interference, but it does not have a >>>>>> monopoly on the values and culture of free expression, which is a >>>>>> fundamental characteristic of the American Idea. I know that is not true >>>>>> of >>>>>> our European cousins (I once had a long conversation with a British >>>>>> colleague who scolded me on the American insistence on making a fetish of >>>>>> free expression, which I took as a huge compliment). >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually have not read any serious source who argues that banning >>>>>> Jones violates the First Amendment so I am not sure why we are hearing >>>>>> this >>>>>> being disputed so much. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> Kevin M. (RPCV) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
