I read someone's musing that the Chris Cuomo 9:00 slot might become a hard news hour. Seems like a comfy landing spot for Wallace.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: > I didn’t subscribe to it, because the very concept of paying for what CNN > does seems wrong on multiple levels, but I don’t think dropping CNN+ after > a month disrespects the newsroom; I think the content coming out of the > newsroom disrespects the newsroom. > > It wouldn’t take much to make CNN a go-to source for news, but the > network’s insane plan of elevating personalities and pundits over > journalists and experts, reducing the network to armchair quarterbacks who > bark over each other then pat each other on the back for doing it, prevents > that from ever happening. > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 3:33 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Based on the reporting of Dylan Byers at Puck, the answer is both A and B >> (not sure they are that different). Zaslav, while respecting that he had no >> say until he officially too over, has made it clear he is looking for >> efficiency (he has promised $3B Of savings in cost synergies), and that >> clearly always included combining all of the new assets in one streaming >> service. There will be CNN content online, maybe a lot of it, but it will >> be on whatever they eventually call the new thing, which likely will >> eventually also fold in HBO. >> >> The CNN people saw CNN+ primarily in terms of serving their news mission >> and ambition (to be the news organization of choice on the internet, >> supplanting the NYT). I think they were betting that if they committed CNN >> financially and publicly enough before the new guys came in, they would >> have no choice but to keep going. They lost that bet. >> >> The newsroom is seeing this as a demoralizing and disrespectful >> de-prioritizing of News within the new company. They may be correct, but I >> think it is too soon to tell. CNN+ Always seemed a little self important >> and deluded an idea, and I have never heard an explanation of how news, >> whose main attribute is timeliness, translates well to the archived, mended >> and on demand environment of streaming. >> >> Whatever Chris Wallace wants to do, it arguably will be more successful >> if somehow pushed to the consumer of John Oliver or Bill Maher, than as the >> furtive lynchpin of an all news streamer. >> >> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 2:44 PM Paul Murray <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm puzzled that no one at CNN seemed to consider, "since we're being >>> acquired, maybe we should hold off launching this expensive venture until >>> we see what our new overlords think." Especially since their plans called >>> for losing $1b in the first few years, and the new company was already >>> going to be saddled with plenty of debt, courtesy of AT&T. >>> >>> I can only conclude that either a) they were high on their own supply >>> and convinced that CNN+ was a work of absolute genius that everyone would >>> recognize or b) they knew the new guys would pull the plug, and they were >>> determined to plunge ahead regardless. >>> >>> From what I have read, Discovery was wary for legal reasons of issuing >>> any directions to Warner pre-merger. >>> >>> On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 4:18:47 PM UTC-4 Tom Wolper wrote: >>> >>>> Journalists I follow on twitter say the consequences of a failure this >>>> large are going to reverberate in CNN for years. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:20 AM Kevin M. <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Remember this picture trending of a bunch of white guys in charge of >>>>> CNN+? People, myself included, pointed out that in Atlanta, to not have >>>>> ANY >>>>> other ethnic representation showed a profound disconnect from the >>>>> potential >>>>> online audience. I can’t prove that’s why it failed, but… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://twitter.com/morsea/status/1508645771066982403?s=21&t=-7ealiXbkRNUZFSbMb2T6A >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:40 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wish I had $300 million I could throw away like that. I was >>>>>> surprised to see that Chris Wallace’s show wasn’t about interviewing >>>>>> newsmakers but interviewing people like William Shatner and Joan Collins. >>>>>> Were they targeting nursing homes? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> All anybody wanted was access to a live stream for breaking news. >>>>>>> CNN execs couldn’t figure that out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:27 AM Joe Hass <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Quibi: you've got company! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.wsj.com/articles/warner-bros-discovery-is-shutting-down-cnn-streaming-service-11650556680?st=6x8pi3k7qmjr1rr&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 3:28 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At least till new bosses JB Perrette and Chris Licht get a chance >>>>>>>>> to look over things. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cnn-plus-future-warner-bros-discovery-1235235816/ >>>>>>>>> (link) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Licht begins at the company May 2nd, at which time he'll quit >>>>>>>>> Twitter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ChrisLicht/status/1516071114073645060 (link) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> B >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/74295e35-a209-4a80-9177-daaaa2efe4b0n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/74295e35-a209-4a80-9177-daaaa2efe4b0n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CABru7%2Bdn%3D-of8uHM%2B_AbaM_Vs9YDzWBpZj5Qo49UjcdVAYK1YA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CABru7%2Bdn%3D-of8uHM%2B_AbaM_Vs9YDzWBpZj5Qo49UjcdVAYK1YA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Kevin M. 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