I believe it's Bell Expressview that uses Dish technology in Canada. I'm told 
that Nagra..2 has been used in used in Europe for quite some time, that it can 
not be easily hacked and that because of this the pirate cards, and or systems 
will stop. But I "aint" no expert.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Doug Ferrell 

  Subject: RE: [TVRO] Re: dish network changed now?


    They are switching over to Nagra2... as well as the Canadian Sats (can't
  remember what their name is at the moment) that uses dish network
  technology.

  ...DOUG, KD4MOJ

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