Ah, canonicalization. Thanks Matt. As you probably know, those URL parameters (other than awesm=) are standard Google Analytics tracking parameters. So, it's something that should probably be handled better by the counter code. But at least we now know the root cause.
Thanks, -jonathan On Aug 24, 5:23 pm, Matt Harris <thematthar...@twitter.com> wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > The count we use is completely separate to search so no inference > should be drawn from there. As well as that the search index is only 5 > or so days now so anything Tweeted before then won't be found. > When counting URLs we count the final destination of a shortURL so it > doesn't matter which is used. > > Knowing this I took a look at the code you shared and it looks good, > but here's the problem I noticed. The URL being Tweeted is not the URL > you placed in data-counturl. You can see this when you hover over the > short URL in the backtype results. > > Instead of: > http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni... > > You are Tweeting: > http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni... > > When I replaced your data-counturl with the Tweeted URL I was shown a > count of 6. In this case 6 makes sense as this is the number of t.co > links created from that longer query string URL. The 3 other URLs are > not counted recognised because they have different utm_content and > awesm values. > > I've passed this information onto the Tweet Button team who are > working on ways to identify that the URLs like this below are > collapsed into the correct URL: > > http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni...http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni... > > I hope this explains why your situation occurs, > Best, > Matt > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Jonathan Strauss > > > > > > <jonat...@snowballfactory.com> wrote: > > Matt, I've been using data-counturl from the start and still seeing 0 > > counts. > > > Here is the source for the button on > >http://blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shorteni... > > which is showing 0 tweets: > > > <a href="http://twitter.com/share"; class="twitter-share-button" data- > > url="http://awe.sm/59O75"; data-counturl="http:// > > blog.snowballfactory.com/2010/08/15/tweet-button-with-shortening-for- > > wordpress/" data-text="Tweet Button with Shortening for WordPress" > > data-count="vertical" data-via="snowballfactory" data- > > related="jhstrauss:Author of the post">Tweet</a><script type="text/ > > javascript" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";></script> > > > As you can see, BackType is indexing the tweets correctly: > >http://www.backtype.com/page/blog.snowballfactory.com%2F2010%2F08%2F1... > > > Yet Twitter search doesn't appear to be: > >http://search.twitter.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.snowballfactory.... > > > From what I can see, the issue appears to be related to what short > > URLs Twitter is choosing to index for the count. > > > Thanks, > > -jonathan > > > On Aug 24, 12:10 am, Matt Harris <thematthar...@twitter.com> wrote: > >> Hey everyone, > > >> This is a repeat of a message on another thread. > > >> I've updated the Tweet Button docs today with information which I hope > >> will answer a number of your questions. In particular the example > >> about using a short URL with the parameter data-counturl should help > >> those of you whose counts are staying at 0. > >> http://dev.twitter.com/pages/tweet_button#using-shorturl > > >> For reference the documentation URLs are: > >> http://dev.twitter.com/pages/tweet_button > >> and > >> http://dev.twitter.com/pages/tweet_button_faq > > >> Hope that helps, > >> Matt > > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:10 AM, artesea <ryancul...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Just tried something else, I click on a tweet containing one of my > >> > short urls > >> > this actually redirects to > >> >http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=20818&utm_source=tweet&utm_medium=twitt... > >> > by setting > >> > data-counturl="http://www.libdemvoice.org/?p=20818"; > >> > it finally counts all the posts. > > >> > If you are still seeing zeros, double check to see where you exactly > >> > redirect to. > > >> > Regards > >> > Ryan > > >> > On Aug 22, 12:27 pm, artesea <ryancul...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Anyone from Twitter looking at this list??? > > >> >> I now have a post with 32 tweets when looking > >> >> athttp://twitter.com/#search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fldv.org.uk%2F20818 > >> >> Yet the post itself is still showing 0. > > >> >> Until this is fixed there is no point having the numbers displayed. > > >> >> Completely useless. > > >> >> Ryan > > >> >> On Aug 19, 9:22 am, artesea <ryancul...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> > I don't give a damn about bit.ly or t.co. > >> >> > I just want people to a) tweet with my own shortlink, and b) display > >> >> > the number of people using that shortlink. > >> >> > I'm not expecting twitter to workout thathttp://ldv.org.uk/20680isa > >> >> > shortlink > >> >> > forhttp://www.libdemvoice.org/office-of-the-public-guardian-finally-star... > >> >> > I'm just expecting them to count the number of tweets > >> >> > withhttp://ldv.org.uk/20680 > >> >> > in them as per the spec. > > >> >> > Ryan > > >> >> > On Aug 19, 12:53 am, Jonathan Strauss <jonat...@snowballfactory.com> > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> > > I'm pretty sure they're only indexing a subset of redirect links for > >> >> > > the count at this point. So, the 4 or 5 being counted are probably > >> >> > > ones that were shared with t.co or bit.ly. > > >> >> > > -jonathan > > >> >> > > -- > >> >> > > Jonathan Strauss, Co-Founderhttp://snowballfactory.com > > >> >> > > Campaign tracking for social media -http://awe.sm > >> >> > > A smarter way to update Facebook from Twitter -http://tweetpo.st > >> >> > > Sharecount button for Facebook -http://www.fbshare.me > > >> >> > > On Aug 18, 12:12 pm, artesea <ryancul...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > > Happens in all browsers even days after the number of tweets is > >> >> > > > up to > >> >> > > > 4 or 5 (ok not a busy site but still zero make it look crap) > >> >> > > > Like I said before clicking on the number brings me to a page > >> >> > > > showing > >> >> > > > all the tweets so they are there, just for some reason twitter > >> >> > > > when > >> >> > > > doing the count lookup isn't finding them (url to short??? doesn't > >> >> > > > like .org.uk???) > >> >> > > > My shortlinks are the same for each post as I'm just using the > >> >> > > > wordpress post id with a 301 redirect. > >> >> > > > Not seeing any reply from Twitter other than "it's probably a > >> >> > > > cache > >> >> > > > issue", which it clearly isn't. > > >> >> > > > Ryan > > >> >> > > > On Aug 16, 1:13 pm, Tom van der Woerdt <i...@tvdw.eu> wrote: > > >> >> > > > > I have one theory and that is that the Twitter button caches the > >> >> > > > > numbers. Try opening a different browser - I've heard people > >> >> > > > > that said > >> >> > > > > that this works. > > >> >> > > > > You should also make sure that you don't generate a new > >> >> > > > > shortlink for > >> >> > > > > every tweet. > > >> >> > > > > Tom > > >> -- > > >> Matt Harris > >> Developer Advocate, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/themattharris > > -- > > Matt Harris > Developer Advocate, Twitterhttp://twitter.com/themattharris -- Twitter developer documentation and resources: http://dev.twitter.com/doc API updates via Twitter: http://twitter.com/twitterapi Issues/Enhancements Tracker: http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/list Change your membership to this group: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk?hl=en
