Here we go again. The annual Oxford Health Plans Misconception. Let me start with a moment of heresy. The migration to Oracle did not cause the companies financial difficulties. This is the same company that long before it migrated to Oracle was not billing many of it's Freedom Plan customers. The only reason this was brought to light was one of the Pick contractors had bought a plan and after 3 months asked "hey, when do we get billed?"
Oracle and a myriad of Oracle consultants said in writing that the database as designed would not work.(i.e no vendor file) Which of course leads to the visual of management sitting around in a room one day and someone says "I don't understand why this failed, we got rid of everyone who said it wouldn't work." That said the there was some real bizarre PICK code. I saw one program that updated a file one attribute at a time with 22 WRITEVU's in a row occurring after every row was entered instead if one write after all of the data was updated. I think what OXHP shows is that U2/PICK is a more forgiving data base. Whether that is bad or good is probably the real debate. The real problem at OXHP was to many people had at worst been promoted to their level of incompetence, or more likely one level to high for their experience. That said, they were the hardest working group of people that I have ever been with. I did not always agree with them, but they always showed up. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/16/2004 6:39:02 PM >>> I found several hits when googling Oxford-Health Oracle fiasco Is there a particularly good write-up on this story that anyone can recommend? I still thought I read about companies that ended up going under (perhaps VARs) when attempting to migrate from MV/PICK to SQL-based DBMS's. Thanks. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Egerton > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [U2] Companies going belly up converting from PICK/MV > > On Sun, 16 May 2004 09:05:37 -0500, you wrote: > > >I've tried to search the archives for some old postings and have been > >unsuccessful, so sorry for asking for previously posted info. > > > >I'm looking for information related to companies that moved or attempted > to > >move from applications based on MV to Oracle or other relational > databases > >and went belly up in the process. > > > >Thanks for any anecdotes or info you can pass along or point me to. -- > dawn > > Not belly up, but you can't leave Oxford Health Plans out. > > Anecdote: > Million dollar bonus for transferring data from Universe to Oracle > tables if done over the weekend. Not happening fast enough. "Drop > the constraints". Bonus received. Tables full of garbage. > > -- > Allen Egerton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users ------- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users ------- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.u2ug.org/listinfo/u2-users
