Here, Here!! I agree with Chuck on the value of procs. Being a 25 year
proctologist myself allows me to support a wide variety of platforms. Many
of my UD/UV/D3 clients, while having paragraphs and other newer additions
available, still function with a lot of code that was inherited from earlier
conversions. Oftentimes management many not be able to justify a re-write of
code just because the language isn't today's flavor.

Coming from Microdata since the 70's, you only had procs with
procread/procwrite as a way to get fancy with PQ procs. PQN in 1979 offered
more read/write and direct variable features but the other licenses were
developing EXECUTE which, looking back, was the better tact. Still, i keep
my proc skills sharpened as I still have to support it. Proc does have some
pretty nifty features for such a simple command set.

Earlier PQ proc didn't have read/write so they developed a sideline language
called BATCH which did these tasks. BATCH is officially removed from the
direct decendancy of R80/83 as D3 doesn't recognize it and i haven't seen it
on any U2 systems. RPL, which predates this further never made it past the
mid 1970's.

Isn't it great to have choices.
my 1 cent.
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Subject: Re: Proc or Para


> L,
>     Proc predates Pick BASIC as a programming language. The short answer
> (to my mind) is that Paragraph is an add-on to
> Access/English/AQL/Retrieve, but Proc is really a scripting language. If
> you need to automate procedures, tie complex programs into a batch, or
> do other heavy lifting, Proc is great. The problem that gets all these
> Proc haters on their soapbox isn't Proc, its when people use Proc for
> the wrong tasks (like Proc menus instead of parametric menus). Proc
> really is incredibily powerful and well worth knowing, but it shouldn't
> be used for 9-% of the tasks it is normally associated with in the Pick
> world.
>     Personally, I rtarely use Paragraph because I need to port software.
>
>     - Charles 'Proc is JCL on Steroids' Barouch
>
>
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