In fact, PQN's were the death of me, as the library system I worked on was almost exclusively driven (as in menus) using PQNs... Damn amazing what can be achieved with them if you had a bent for the peculiar, and perseverance beyond stupidity.
Shoulda left them at PQ... Simple proc /BAT files. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman Sent: 05 February 2004 10:06 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Proc or Para Old history now, but as a Pr1mate (as in used, not worked for), I never learnt (or even MET!) procs until extremely late in the day. Official support for procs appeared with INFORMATION 8.1, released probably about 1991 just before they went bust :-( It just WASN'T THERE on any system I ever worked with ... Cheers, Wol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: 05 February 2004 04:41 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Proc or Para Here, Here!! I agree with Chuck on the value of procs. Being a 25 year proctologist myself allows me to support a wide variety of platforms. Many of my UD/UV/D3 clients, while having paragraphs and other newer additions available, still function with a lot of code that was inherited from earlier conversions. Oftentimes management many not be able to justify a re-write of code just because the language isn't today's flavor. Coming from Microdata since the 70's, you only had procs with procread/procwrite as a way to get fancy with PQ procs. PQN in 1979 offered more read/write and direct variable features but the other licenses were developing EXECUTE which, looking back, was the better tact. Still, i keep my proc skills sharpened as I still have to support it. Proc does have some pretty nifty features for such a simple command set. Earlier PQ proc didn't have read/write so they developed a sideline language called BATCH which did these tasks. BATCH is officially removed from the direct decendancy of R80/83 as D3 doesn't recognize it and i haven't seen it on any U2 systems. RPL, which predates this further never made it past the mid 1970's. Isn't it great to have choices. my 1 cent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Results" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Proc or Para > L, > Proc predates Pick BASIC as a programming language. The short answer > (to my mind) is that Paragraph is an add-on to > Access/English/AQL/Retrieve, but Proc is really a scripting language. If > you need to automate procedures, tie complex programs into a batch, or > do other heavy lifting, Proc is great. The problem that gets all these > Proc haters on their soapbox isn't Proc, its when people use Proc for > the wrong tasks (like Proc menus instead of parametric menus). Proc > really is incredibily powerful and well worth knowing, but it shouldn't > be used for 9-% of the tasks it is normally associated with in the Pick > world. > Personally, I rtarely use Paragraph because I need to port software. > > - Charles 'Proc is JCL on Steroids' Barouch > > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ************************************************************ ************ *********** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. ************************************************************ ************ *********** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
