Will, You are right ! With a product like AccuTerm you can run ANY windows command (within your security constraints), fire off & control any OLE/ActiveX application/control, and on this level Vis�ge is on a par with AccuTerm et al.
If you are ONLY looking at being able to fire off Windows applications, then the reality is that there is little to differentiate the products ... as you point out, they all have a scripting language with automation capabilities, and so could be seen as "equal". However, if you are looking at doing something MORE than just firing off a windows EXE, like "enriching" the user experience when interacting with your multi-valued data (read GUI), actively reducing the amount of code required to perform a specific task, or even something as basic as tidying up your dictionaries, the divergence becomes more marked. Vis�ge is NOT a terminal emulator on steroids - it is a complete application development framework, designed specifically for multi-value databases. Rather than recoiling from the mv data model, we embrace it wholeheartedly and have done our best to enhance it. Vis�ge can radically reduce your development times for any new developments, and can leverage your existing assets (Basic Code, Database Designs, Queries etc) to re-invigorate (and add an appealing new face to) your existing applications in a startlingly short period of time - and it has a feature set that simply isn't provided by any other tool in this market place. For example, aligning this back to the original post, rather than attempting to use CR for reporting, I'd simply create a Vis�ge.BIT cube to give the users free-form enquiry and data exploration facilities into their UV database. In our case we have replaced >300 sales analysis reports currently provided in our R5 system with a single Sales Cube - and this is one of the facilities that makes Vis�ge "better" than AccuTerm ! Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage - an Evolution in Software Development (Footnote: Vis�ge started life as a "smart" Terminal Emulator MANY moons ago, and we still use & promote AccuTerm with our R5 application suite. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, 18 April 2004 3:58 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: GUI from Mv code Re: Crystal Reports > >In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:21:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> AFIK, "Visage" offers users a GUI in a TOTAL WINDOWS LOOK AND >> FEEL/BROWSER environment, without having to do a "total rewrite", but a >> "rewrite" none the less, re-using some portions, perhaps, of existing >> code. "Visage" seems to be more than a user interface. It's also >> supposedly (sorry, Ross, I've got no experience in "Visage") a much less >> involved NEW development environment.... >> >> Other MV so-called "GUI" approaches, (AccuTerm and wIntegrate scripts, >for >> example) are offering the user a GUI with an almost-modern Windows look >and >> feel, but without the bells and whistles, and are offering a GUI by >> applying Band-Aids to existing code. I really don't think that's a >> "development environment". I don't think "new development" is covered >by >> this approach. > >What? How exactly do you get this? >A script is not an "almost modern Windows look and feel"... it is the look >and feel. >The script calls windows exectuables underneath it, thats how it works. >If a programmer chooses not to utilize all the various objects and methods >etc that Accuterm reveals, thats their own choice, not the fault of the >product. > >I'm not sure exactly how Visage is that much better than Accuterm in that >regard. >Are you? >Will >-- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 15/04/2004 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 15/04/2004 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
