Yeah, but you have a much stronger link - you're at -48 with 17dbm Tx Power.

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From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of 
Matt Hoppes [mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:26 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Darin Steffl
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x

I'm not sure what has been discussed here, but we have 10x going on this
link (see picture)

On 3/26/18 11:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> Alex,
>
> Frequency coordinators are supposed to find you spectrum but at the end
> of the day, it's up to your company to engineer/design the link to meet
> your required signal and bandwidth needs. The manual for the AF11fx
> clearly spells out the required signal levels and power levels needed to
> achieve 6x, 8x, 10x modulation schemes. 18db is MAX power that can be
> used to achieve 10x for example and then whatever the required signal
> level is listed but I don't have it memorized.
>
> Sorry to put you on the spot and I don't mean any disrespect but you
> guys kind of messed up. Don't rely on frequency coordinators to design
> your links. Only use them to find you spectrum.
>
> A 17 mile link in 11ghz should definitely have minimum 3 foot antennas
> on each end but I would plan on using 4 foot antennas to be safe if the
> link is important to you and you want max bandwidth.
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM, alex phillips <highspeedl...@gmail.com
> <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Yes, this is what I Am concluding as well.  I have spoken with my
>     freq coordinator about making changes to their software that
>     estimates these links to account for this.
>
>     /*Alex Phillips*/
>     CEO and General Manager
>     RBNS.net
>     HighSpeedLink.net
>     *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>     Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
>     September 6-8th 2018
>     #AMP18
>     @PriorityConf Twitter
>
>     On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Mathew Howard <mat...@litewire.net
>     <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
>
>         Yes, but the bigger problem here, if I'm reading Alex's
>         screenshot correctly, is that this is a 17 mile link using 2'
>         dishes, and there's a very good chance that there simply isn't
>         enough signal for 10X to work. According to airlink, the signal
>         should be right on the edge of 10X territory at that distance,
>         which those antennas, but in the real world there's a good
>         chance it isn't going to work... and there's certainly no fade
>         margin to speak of at 10X.
>
>         
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>         *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
>         [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>         <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of David Jones
>         [d...@nglconnection.com <mailto:d...@nglconnection.com>]
>         *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 5:42 AM
>
>         *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>         *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
>
>         I can confirm with Adair
>
>         in order to get 10x you need TX set at 18 and no auto power back
>         off. However you can use the MIMO and Short CP
>
>
>         On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Mathew Howard
>         <mat...@litewire.net <mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
>
>             I haven't ever been able to get the auto power back off to
>             work properly... the first thing I'd try would be to turn
>             that off and just set the max power to 18dbm... but the
>             problem is, that when you do that, you're going to probably
>             lose too much signal to maintain a 10x link (judging from
>             the dashboard screenshot). If you go to the latest beta
>             firmware, you'll probably be able to get 9x working, but I
>             suspect the link just isn't going to be able to do 10x.
>
>             
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>
>             [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>             <mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of alex
>             phillips [highspeedl...@gmail.com
>             <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>]
>             *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2018 9:33 AM
>             *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>             *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
>
>             Like this?
>
>             https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png
>             <https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png>
>
>
>             That's how we've had it set, and we're still only seeing 8x.
>
>             https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png
>             <https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png>
>
>
>             /*Alex Phillips*/
>             CEO and General Manager
>             RBNS.net
>             HighSpeedLink.net
>             *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>             Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
>             September 6-8th 2018
>             #AMP18
>             @PriorityConf Twitter
>
>             On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Adair Winter
>             <ada...@amarillowireless.net
>             <mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote:
>
>                 What is your conducted power set to?
>
>                 On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:29 AM alex phillips
>                 <highspeedl...@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:highspeedl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     I have it set like the lic says but it wont hit
>                     10x.  Ubnt support suggested reducing power and that
>                     did not help.
>
>                     /*Alex Phillips*/
>                     CEO and General Manager
>                     RBNS.net
>                     HighSpeedLink.net
>                     *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>                     Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority
>                     Conference
>                     September 6-8th 2018
>                     #AMP18
>                     @PriorityConf Twitter
>
>                     On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Seth Mattinen
>                     <se...@rollernet.us <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
>
>                         On 3/23/18 7:03 AM, alex phillips wrote:
>                         > Can those who use AF11 and are able to establish a 
> link a 10x reliably
>                         > please share your link information?
>                         >
>                         > Distance,  Dish and power settings.
>
>
>                         Match your license. Don't randomly increase
>                         power, 11GHz travels a long
>                         way and you can easily interfere with another
>                         licensee.
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