I guess I missed the original e-mail.  What power level and signal are 
we questioning here?

On 3/26/18 12:58 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> Yeah, but you have a much stronger link - you're at -48 with 17dbm Tx Power.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf 
> of Matt Hoppes [[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:26 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Darin Steffl
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
> 
> I'm not sure what has been discussed here, but we have 10x going on this
> link (see picture)
> 
> On 3/26/18 11:48 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
>> Alex,
>>
>> Frequency coordinators are supposed to find you spectrum but at the end
>> of the day, it's up to your company to engineer/design the link to meet
>> your required signal and bandwidth needs. The manual for the AF11fx
>> clearly spells out the required signal levels and power levels needed to
>> achieve 6x, 8x, 10x modulation schemes. 18db is MAX power that can be
>> used to achieve 10x for example and then whatever the required signal
>> level is listed but I don't have it memorized.
>>
>> Sorry to put you on the spot and I don't mean any disrespect but you
>> guys kind of messed up. Don't rely on frequency coordinators to design
>> your links. Only use them to find you spectrum.
>>
>> A 17 mile link in 11ghz should definitely have minimum 3 foot antennas
>> on each end but I would plan on using 4 foot antennas to be safe if the
>> link is important to you and you want max bandwidth.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:38 AM, alex phillips <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>      Yes, this is what I Am concluding as well.  I have spoken with my
>>      freq coordinator about making changes to their software that
>>      estimates these links to account for this.
>>
>>      /*Alex Phillips*/
>>      CEO and General Manager
>>      RBNS.net
>>      HighSpeedLink.net
>>      *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>>      Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
>>      September 6-8th 2018
>>      #AMP18
>>      @PriorityConf Twitter
>>
>>      On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>          Yes, but the bigger problem here, if I'm reading Alex's
>>          screenshot correctly, is that this is a 17 mile link using 2'
>>          dishes, and there's a very good chance that there simply isn't
>>          enough signal for 10X to work. According to airlink, the signal
>>          should be right on the edge of 10X territory at that distance,
>>          which those antennas, but in the real world there's a good
>>          chance it isn't going to work... and there's certainly no fade
>>          margin to speak of at 10X.
>>
>>          
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>          *From:* [email protected]
>>          <mailto:[email protected]>
>>          [[email protected]
>>          <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of David Jones
>>          [[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>          *Sent:* Monday, March 26, 2018 5:42 AM
>>
>>          *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>          *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
>>
>>          I can confirm with Adair
>>
>>          in order to get 10x you need TX set at 18 and no auto power back
>>          off. However you can use the MIMO and Short CP
>>
>>
>>          On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:05 AM, Mathew Howard
>>          <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>              I haven't ever been able to get the auto power back off to
>>              work properly... the first thing I'd try would be to turn
>>              that off and just set the max power to 18dbm... but the
>>              problem is, that when you do that, you're going to probably
>>              lose too much signal to maintain a 10x link (judging from
>>              the dashboard screenshot). If you go to the latest beta
>>              firmware, you'll probably be able to get 9x working, but I
>>              suspect the link just isn't going to be able to do 10x.
>>
>>              
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>              *From:* [email protected]
>>              <mailto:[email protected]>
>>              [[email protected]
>>              <mailto:[email protected]>] on behalf of alex
>>              phillips [[email protected]
>>              <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>              *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2018 9:33 AM
>>              *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>              *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x
>>
>>              Like this?
>>
>>              https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png
>>              <https://i.imgur.com/I23ggVX.png>
>>
>>
>>              That's how we've had it set, and we're still only seeing 8x.
>>
>>              https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png
>>              <https://i.imgur.com/18JUkVz.png>
>>
>>
>>              /*Alex Phillips*/
>>              CEO and General Manager
>>              RBNS.net
>>              HighSpeedLink.net
>>              *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>>              Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority Conference
>>              September 6-8th 2018
>>              #AMP18
>>              @PriorityConf Twitter
>>
>>              On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Adair Winter
>>              <[email protected]
>>              <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                  What is your conducted power set to?
>>
>>                  On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 9:29 AM alex phillips
>>                  <[email protected]
>>                  <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                      I have it set like the lic says but it wont hit
>>                      10x.  Ubnt support suggested reducing power and that
>>                      did not help.
>>
>>                      /*Alex Phillips*/
>>                      CEO and General Manager
>>                      RBNS.net
>>                      HighSpeedLink.net
>>                      *540-908-3993 <tel:(540)%20908-3993>*
>>                      Co-Host AmericanPriority.com American Priority
>>                      Conference
>>                      September 6-8th 2018
>>                      #AMP18
>>                      @PriorityConf Twitter
>>
>>                      On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Seth Mattinen
>>                      <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>                          On 3/23/18 7:03 AM, alex phillips wrote:
>>                          > Can those who use AF11 and are able to establish 
>> a link a 10x reliably
>>                          > please share your link information?
>>                          >
>>                          > Distance,  Dish and power settings.
>>
>>
>>                          Match your license. Don't randomly increase
>>                          power, 11GHz travels a long
>>                          way and you can easily interfere with another
>>                          licensee.
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