insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or directory
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or directory
however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not speakup-soft?]
speakup_soft 16384 1
speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version update
that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but I am
still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I was about 2
clean installs ago ...
>
>
> david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
> System:
> Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console: pty
pts/0
> Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
> systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software speech
> output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC; 9min ago
> Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
> Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
--default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
> Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
> Memory: 10.5M
> CPU: 183ms
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
>
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output for
Speakup...
> Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output for
Speakup.
> david@ubuntu:~$
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> --David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky <dorozhin...@ukr.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Jude DaShiell' <jdash...@panix.com>;
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At least in
my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to install it
manually.
>
> Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
> System: Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
> bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
> Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
>
>
> dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
> espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service; enabled;
> vendor preset: enabled)
> Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET; 22min
ago
> Docs: man:espeakup(8)
> Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
> Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
> Memory: 6.3M
> CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
> ??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
>
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software
> speech output for Speakup...
> Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software speech
> output for Speakup.
>
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Volodymyr
>
>
>
> On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
> > I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far.
> > It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the
> > hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am
> > testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if that is
> > true or not
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
> > To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what you
> > want they're not default. I've done much of it before but found
> > slint far more straightforward to get this process working
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
> > defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
> >> in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for
> >> lugging all the equipment along
> >>
> >> However, from your description it does not sound like it is an
> >> easily repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider
> >> looking into switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something
> >> that would hopefully work 'out of the box'
> >>
> >> --David
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
> >> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> >> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >>
> >> Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what
> >> kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu hasn't
> >> got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu until
> >> after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process either
> >> It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then installing
> >> it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best done by linux
> >> experts at the linux user's group install linux club day meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used
> >> in defense of liberty:
> >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >>
> >>> How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just pop
> >>> the disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is
> >>> reading them to me]
> >>>
> >>> --David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM
> >>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> >>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >>>
> >>> If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall
> >>> the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you install missing
> >>> modules is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have
> >>> to build them correctly first. If you had mlocate package
> >>> installed and had done updatedb first then you could do locate
> >>> speakup_soft and find if you have that module in source code on your
disk.
> >>> Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted
> >>> all of the speakup modules. They would be on the disk and would
> >>> have first to be removed from the blacklist then built and then
> >>> installed. It's a complicated
> >> process, just the way ubuntu wants it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used
> >>> in defense of liberty:
> >>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >>>
> >>> .
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is
> > possible?
> >>>> --David
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM
> >>>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> >>>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of
> >>>> the speakup modules.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used
> >>>> in defense of liberty:
> >>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >>>>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't
> >>>>> appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I
> >>>>> am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't
> >>>>> seems to be able to find it either
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and
> >>>>> wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step
> >>>>> instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --David
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM
> >>>>> To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> >>>>> <dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>>> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or replace
> >>>>> ubuntu with
> >>>> another distribution.
> >>>>> You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a
> >>>>> espeak.log to
> >>>> each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish
> >>>> getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get stripped out
> >>>> that
> >> way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
> >>>>> used in defense of liberty:
> >>>>> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >>>>> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
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